[time-nuts] HP 58503A Flashing Front Panel LEDs

2018-05-03 Thread Michael Jasper
Hi, I recently purchased an HP 58503A from eBay. When I power it on, with or without an antenna, the power LED illuminates on the front panel, followed by each LED one at a time. Then, after a moment, the unit alternates between all front panel LEDs being illuminated and only the power LED at

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A question (EFC: Err)

2018-01-05 Thread Tom Van Baak
Mitch, Thanks for the screen shot. That means 99% of your 58503 is working; very good news. If you look at the last line if your screen shot (attached), the self-test is failing due to EFC (Electronic Frequency Control), the voltage that pulls the quartz oscillator low or high to keep it

[time-nuts] HP 58503A GPS time and frequency receiver - How do I determine why the ALARM LED is on?

2017-01-25 Thread Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)
I've got an HP 58503A purchased from China a couple of years ago. It has a bit of a hard life, having been in water at some time. But it seems to work ok, as far as I can tell. Today there was a power failure for 5 minutes or so. The red ALARM LED is on. It is not clear to me why, although of

[time-nuts] HP 58503A chassis part needed

2016-12-12 Thread Stan
Hello, I'm in the process of restoring my 58503A. In the process of disassembling it, the rear plastic frame that is held to the back panel with the two T15 Torx screws had become brittle with age and it cracked into several pieces as I was removing it. It will be difficult to get all of the

[time-nuts] HP 58503A failure

2016-11-04 Thread Stan
I have had an HP 58503A GPSDO with the Option 001 display running continuously for over ten years without a problem-that is, until today. When I looked at it this morning, the display was showing a valid time, but it was frozen and not advancing. Pushing on the buttons had no effect. I unplugged

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A Com 4 conflict

2015-01-05 Thread Didier Juges
To add a small dose of additional complexity, Visual Basic 6.0 (and I suspect other dev tools of that generation) only support COM ports up to 16. Not as bad as 4, but still a problem on occasion. Didier KO4BB On January 4, 2015 12:03:05 PM CST, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi Ok, off into

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A Com 4 conflict

2015-01-05 Thread James Robbins
Thanks Bob, Didier and Rex for the consult on the Com 4 Conflict and the teaching. Update: First, sorry for not posting adequate information in my question to start with. The result of some emails was a clarification that it was not the 58503A which was causing the issue with the Com ports,

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A Com 4 conflict

2015-01-05 Thread Rex
You left out a lot of details, like what OS your PC is running, Assuming it is Windows XP or greater, you may be able to juggle the assigned com port. If you are using a USB/serial adapter, be sure it is plugged in so it shows on the devices list. You need to open Device Manager. One way is

[time-nuts] HP 58503A Com 4 conflict

2015-01-04 Thread James Robbins
My new old HP58503A wants to connect to my PC on Com 1-4. Other PC devices are already using those 4 Com ports. Is there any way to connect it to a Com port other than one of those 1 to 4? I currently use an Edgeport USB-to-Serial Converter which works very well to communicate with the PC

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A Com 4 conflict

2015-01-04 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Ok, off into serial land …. The GPSDO does not really know or care what port it’s on. It will be just as happy on port 119 as on port 4. It (by design) does care about the baud rate / data bits / parity / stop bits. This is as true with a USB to serial as with a direct serial card.

Re: [time-nuts] HP-58503A

2015-01-02 Thread EB4APL
Hi, The past week I had to replace more than 30 capacitors in various of my home electronics, some were bulged and others not so. There were 7 in a computer motherboard, 10 in other, 8 in a TV set power supply, 2 in an external USB disk power supply and the rest in other things, I know the

Re: [time-nuts] HP-58503A

2015-01-02 Thread Andy Bardagjy
Sounds like the GPS receiver is hosed. I think there are two different receivers used in the 58503a, unfortunately I'm away from my lab, otherwise I could check mine. It is a standard part, and may be available on the surplus market. Before replacing, I'd check the usual suspects, power

Re: [time-nuts] HP-58503A

2015-01-02 Thread Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)
On 1 January 2015 at 17:03, Andy Bardagjy andybarda...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like the GPS receiver is hosed. I think there are two different receivers used in the 58503a, unfortunately I'm away from my lab, otherwise I could check mine. It is a standard part, and may be available on the

[time-nuts] HP-58503A

2014-12-30 Thread Richard Thorpe
This list was recommended to me by the elecraft list. I have an HP-58503A sat disciplined “clock” that puts out a steady 10MHz to my K3 radio. Its been working 24/7 for years, I monitor it with David Anderson's Mac GPS Control X software on my iMac. Several days ago error messages showed up

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A service manual with schematics

2014-06-01 Thread Mark C. Stephens
of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A service manual with schematics hi John I am new in the list but not in the art here a lot of manuals http://exodus.poly.edu/~kurt/manuals/manuals/HP%20Agilent/ Gianni In 28 maggio 2014, starb...@uplink.net scritto: Hello

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A service manual with schematics

2014-05-28 Thread gianni
hi John I am new in the list but not in the art here a lot of manuals http://exodus.poly.edu/~kurt/manuals/manuals/HP%20Agilent/ Gianni In 28 maggio 2014, starb...@uplink.net scritto: Hello to the time experts, I own a nice HP-58503A and I would be happy to find a pdf version of the complete

[time-nuts] HP 58503A service manual with schematics

2014-05-27 Thread starbook
Hello to the time experts, I own a nice HP-58503A and I would be happy to find a pdf version of the complete service manual for it. Is somebody in the position to help me or to give me a hint where I could find it? Thank you very much, regards, John

[time-nuts] HP 58503A Service Manual with schematics

2014-05-03 Thread starbook
Does anyone have a service manual for the HP 58503A GPS Time and Frequency Receiver? Thanks, John ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A acurate UTC time

2014-03-12 Thread Timestep
Thanks guys It is now reading UTC, but only after a power off routine. That confused me ! I can't afford the time to let it re-survey, and used the Query command with a 0 instead of a ?. Re-querying it with a question mark it replied that there would be no survey on power up. The iPhone

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A acurate UTC time

2014-03-12 Thread Hal Murray
So the question is, will this really stop the annoying survey every time ? I'd browse the manual looking for fine print. The idea you are looking for is that after a survey it will save the location. If it has a saved location on power up it will use it rather than do a new survey. The

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A acurate UTC time

2014-03-12 Thread Timestep
HP 58503A Hi Hal Good point, I don't want the display lighting my office up at night, hence I often turn it off. What I really need is the circuit of the front panel, then I could dim the display and leave in on 24/7 Thanks Dave ___ time-nuts

[time-nuts] HP 58503A acurate UTC time

2014-03-11 Thread Timestep
From: Dave Cawley Timestep Dartmouth Tel: +44 (0) 1803 833366 Fax: +44 (0) 1803 839498 HP 58503A accurate UTC time I have the version with the display panel and also the SatStat50 software all working fine. The time on both the display and PC appears to be 16 seconds fast. I queried the

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A acurate UTC time

2014-03-11 Thread Tom Van Baak
: ... /tvb - Original Message - From: Timestep informat...@time-step.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:33 AM Subject: [time-nuts] HP 58503A acurate UTC time From: Dave Cawley Timestep Dartmouth Tel: +44 (0) 1803 833366 Fax: +44 (0) 1803 839498 HP 58503A

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A acurate UTC time

2014-03-11 Thread Hal Murray
a.. So how do I set it to read real time ? My notes say that for a Z3801A: :diag:gps:utc 1 It may need a reboot. A google search for HP 58503A manual gets lots of hits that look interesting. This is the top of the list: 58503B GPS Time and Frequency Reference ... - LeapSecond.com

[time-nuts] Hp 58503A

2012-10-16 Thread Mark Danon
Hey guys, new to the group here and wanted to throw a question out there. I just picked up an HP 58503A and hooked it all up. I have it connected to my computer and I can see the system status via satstat and all looks to be working correctly. However, I notice that there is distortion on the

Re: [time-nuts] Hp 58503A

2012-10-16 Thread Said Jackson
Mark, Are you loading the 10Mhz output with 50 Ohms when you measure it? Said Sent from my iPad On Oct 16, 2012, at 6:52, Mark Danon mdan...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, new to the group here and wanted to throw a question out there. I just picked up an HP 58503A and hooked it all up. I

Re: [time-nuts] Hp 58503A

2012-10-16 Thread Mark Danon
I guess this it what they would call a rookie move? WOW, i feel like an idiot. I just loaded it down with a 50 ohm load and looks perfect. Thanks for enlightening me. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Hp 58503A

2012-10-16 Thread Tom Knox
I overlooked it also. Glad the problem is resolved. Thomas Knox Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:31:13 -0400 From: mdan...@gmail.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Hp 58503A I guess this it what they would call a rookie move? WOW, i feel like an idiot. I just loaded it down

Re: [time-nuts] Hp 58503A

2012-10-16 Thread SAIDJACK
No problem, happens to me too some times, usually the 10MHz Sine should be loaded with 50 Ohms, and the CMOS/TTL 1PPS pulses should be run open-ended (1M or higher).. I say usually.. because there are cases where proper termination is critical such as LVDS 1PPS outputs.. and where the

Re: [time-nuts] Hp 58503A

2012-10-16 Thread Charles P. Steinmetz
I just loaded it down with a 50 ohm load and looks perfect. One of my design pet peeves is not anticipating what users may do. For example, not anticipating that someone might terminate an output in a high impedance rather than in the rated impedance, or leave unused outputs

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-03 Thread Christoph Kopetzky
Peter Bell bell.peter@... writes: If it is, then you should see a pulse every 2 seconds, lined up with the even seconds in GPS time. This might seem a rather strange signal to provide, but it's what the IS-95 derived CDMA systems use to trigger the start of another 100 block signalling

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-03 Thread Doug Reed
I ran into a wiki description of GPS using WGS84 a couple days ago. It included a mention of ESEC and it was something like: Earth Static, Earth Centric. I think I was following a link about the Z3801A. It referred to the fact that lat-lon is referenced to a static grid on the Earth and

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-03 Thread Jim Lux
On 8/2/12 6:24 PM, Doug Reed wrote: I ran into a wiki description of GPS using WGS84 a couple days ago. It included a mention of ESEC and it was something like: Earth Static, Earth Centric. I think I was following a link about the Z3801A. It referred to the fact that lat-lon is referenced to a

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-03 Thread bg
Doug, I ran into a wiki description of GPS using WGS84 a couple days ago. It included a mention of ESEC and it was something like: Earth Static, Earth Centric. I think I was following a link about the Z3801A. It referred to the fact that lat-lon is referenced to a static grid on the Earth

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-03 Thread Azelio Boriani
What 'scope are you using (brand and model)? TLL is 5V, CMOS 4000 series can be 15V but runs starting at 3V. Set the scope vertical (channel 1) at 1V/div (probe at 10:1), use NORMAL for the trigger and set the trigger (for the channel 1) *slowly* from 0V to +200mV (assuming that the trigger isn't

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-03 Thread Christoph Kopetzky
Azelio Boriani azelio.boriani@... writes: What 'scope are you using (brand and model)? TLL is 5V, CMOS 4000 series can be 15V but runs starting at 3V. Set the scope vertical (channel 1) at 1V/div (probe at 10:1), use NORMAL for the trigger and set the trigger (for the channel 1) *slowly*

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-03 Thread Christoph Kopetzky
Hal Murray hmurray@... writes: We discussed this area a week or three ago. You don't need a digital scope to determine if there is a pulse. A digital scope may help to see the pulse and figure out what it looks like. With an analog scope, you can either look at the blinking light that

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-03 Thread Christoph Kopetzky
Doug Reed n0nas@... writes: I ran into a wiki description of GPS using WGS84 a couple days ago. It included a mention of ESEC and it was something like: Earth Static, Earth Centric. I think I was following a link about the Z3801A. It referred to the fact that lat-lon is referenced to a

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-03 Thread Azelio Boriani
Here: www.leap*second*.com/museum/*hp58503*a/097-58503-12-iss-1.pdf you can find that there is the option 002 for the even second but they call it PP2S... Try to discover if your 58503 has this option 002. On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Christoph Kopetzky dekag...@gmail.comwrote: Hal Murray

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-03 Thread Doug Reed
OK, that's what I get for working from memory. :-) I got the idea more or less right but it has nothing to do with the abbreviation under discussion Thanks for the correction. 73, Doug. b...@lysator.liu.se wrote: Doug, I ran into a wiki description of GPS using WGS84 a couple days ago.

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-03 Thread Christoph Kopetzky
Azelio Boriani azelio.boriani@... writes: Here: www.leap*second*.com/museum/*hp58503*a/097-58503-12-iss-1.pdf you can find that there is the option 002 for the even second but they call it PP2S... Try to discover if your 58503 has this option 002. Azelio, thanks for the link but I

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-03 Thread Christoph Kopetzky
Hello followers, I can state that my measuring of the signal (30 mV, 65,2 kHz) was caused by the serial line of the com port of the receiver... :-) After looking for sources of the noisy signal I disconnected my first the GPS antenna signal from the 58512A GPS amplifier. - Signal intact Then I

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-03 Thread Hal Murray
dekag...@gmail.com said: with my analog scope (Hameg HM2005-2) I can trigger a low level voltage spike signal with a p-p voltage of 30 mV and a frequency of 52,6 kHz. Could that be real? The signal level is very low, 30 mV... That sounds like junk pickup. My guess would be from a switching

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-03 Thread Christoph Kopetzky
Hal Murray hmurray@... writes: dekagoon@... said: with my analog scope (Hameg HM2005-2) I can trigger a low level voltage spike signal with a p-p voltage of 30 mV and a frequency of 52,6 kHz. Could that be real? The signal level is very low, 30 mV... That sounds like junk pickup.

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-02 Thread Christoph Kopetzky
Azelio Boriani azelio.boriani@... writes: Why are you assuming this is a protocol or signal label? Maybe a maintenance or repair-by-exchange indication too. Because the label is above the bnc connector on the back side of the 58503A beside the bnc connector with an alarm label. The

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-02 Thread Azelio Boriani
OK, it is in the place of the PPS output... can you hook an oscilloscope and see if there is any output? On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Christoph Kopetzky dekag...@gmail.comwrote: Azelio Boriani azelio.boriani@... writes: Why are you assuming this is a protocol or signal label? Maybe a

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-02 Thread Peter Bell
My guess is that it's a PP2S / Even Second output - that would also match with the label... On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Azelio Boriani azelio.bori...@screen.itwrote: OK, it is in the place of the PPS output... can you hook an oscilloscope and see if there is any output? On Thu, Aug 2,

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-02 Thread Azelio Boriani
OK, so a digital 'scope is needed or, at least, with memory. On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Peter Bell bell.pe...@gmail.com wrote: My guess is that it's a PP2S / Even Second output - that would also match with the label... On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Azelio Boriani

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-02 Thread Christoph Kopetzky
Azelio Boriani azelio.boriani@... writes: OK, so a digital 'scope is needed or, at least, with memory. On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Peter Bell bell.peter@... wrote: My guess is that it's a PP2S / Even Second output - that would also match with the label... OK Azelio, good idea,

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-02 Thread Peter Bell
If it is, then you should see a pulse every 2 seconds, lined up with the even seconds in GPS time. This might seem a rather strange signal to provide, but it's what the IS-95 derived CDMA systems use to trigger the start of another 100 block signalling frame. It also tends to suggest that the

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-02 Thread Hal Murray
My guess is that it's a PP2S / Even Second output - that would also match with the label... azelio.bori...@screen.it said: OK, so a digital 'scope is needed or, at least, with memory. We discussed this area a week or three ago. You don't need a digital scope to determine if there is a

[time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-01 Thread Christoph Kopetzky
Hi all, I have a question on my 58503A: no problems aside, it is running for several years without any problems. But now I am cleaning my devices and I am reading the label ESEC again on the back. So the question comes up again, what is ESEC? Google knows nothing about the signal or protocol...

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A

2012-08-01 Thread Azelio Boriani
Why are you assuming this is a protocol or signal label? Maybe a maintenance or repair-by-exchange indication too. On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Christoph Kopetzky dekag...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, I have a question on my 58503A: no problems aside, it is running for several years without

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A Dim Display Replacement

2012-07-25 Thread Stan
-nuts] HP 58503A Dim Display Replacement Message-ID: 1924087406.102486.1343176142270.javamail.r...@sz0079a.emeryville.ca.mail.co mcast.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi, I have an older HP 58 503A with option 001 display but it is very dim from age. Does anyone know

Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A Dim Display Replacement

2012-07-25 Thread Tom Knox
-nuts@febo.com Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 17:37:52 -0700 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 58503A Dim Display Replacement Hi Jeff, The VFD module is identical to the ones used in the 53131A and 53132A counters. It is a part of the A2 input assembly in the counters (p/n 53131-60002). The good news

[time-nuts] HP 58503A Dim Display Replacement

2012-07-24 Thread jeffhook
Hi, I have an older HP 58 503A with option 001 display but it is very dim from age. Does anyone know of a replacement display IC for this? Thanks Jeff ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to