Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds now showing on GPS satellites

2012-02-11 Thread Azelio Boriani
My Z3815A doesn't have a leap second pending... maybe the Furuno GPS receiver hasn't that information or the Z3815A doesn't retrive it. I'll check the HP58503A at work. On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 3:52 AM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: It got here around 2785 seconds UTC after midnight

Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds now showing on GPS satellites

2012-02-11 Thread k4...@aol.com
of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sat, Feb 11, 2012 02:52:53 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds now showing on GPS satellites It got here around 2785 seconds UTC after midnight on Feb 10th. (unless I fatfingered something) From a NTP log file

Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds now showing on GPS satellites

2012-02-11 Thread Tom Van Baak
The words leap second pending are not specific enough and I hope there aren't still GPS receivers or API's that do this. What most applications only want to know is leap second pending this month. Some applications need to know is leap second pending in future month X. So one has to be careful

Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds now showing on GPS satellites

2012-02-11 Thread Tom Van Baak
I was hoping that they would add it at some week rollover point or at the first of the month, etc. But it appears to just be random or whenever they get around to it. Leap seconds are always applied at the end of the UTC day of the last day of the month specified. So the next one will occur

Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds now showing on GPS satellites

2012-02-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 34D15475EDD248D49D30FD70F9D927E4@pc52, Tom Van Baak writes: What most applications only want to know is leap second pending this month. Some applications need to know is leap second pending in future month X. Actually, there is a very important application that wants to know as far in

Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds now showing on GPS satellites

2012-02-11 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 02/11/2012 07:40 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote: I was hoping that they would add it at some week rollover point or at the first of the month, etc. But it appears to just be random or whenever they get around to it. Leap seconds are always applied at the end of the UTC day of the last day of the

Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds now showing on GPS satellites

2012-02-11 Thread Hal Murray
t...@leapsecond.com said: So one has to be careful how you handle this information. There is always that awkward time, which we are now in, between when a future leap second is announced and the actual month in which it occurs. It never fails that some user or software misinterprets the IERS

[time-nuts] Leap seconds now showing on GPS satellites

2012-02-10 Thread k4...@aol.com
I see page 18 subframe 4 is now broadcasting a pending leap second being transmitted by the GPS sats. I had checked it earlier this week and they were still transmitting the old data. But sometime between Monday and today they changed it. For those with receivers or software programs

Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds now showing on GPS satellites

2012-02-10 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message e809eaf9-1182-43fc-82ab-6415c5f83d68@blur, k4...@aol.com writes: I see page 18 subframe 4 is now broadcasting a pending leap second being transmitted by the GPS sats. I had checked it earlier this week and they were still transmitting the old data. But sometime between Monday and

Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds now showing on GPS satellites

2012-02-10 Thread k4...@aol.com
: Fri, Feb 10, 2012 20:33:56 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds now showing on GPS satellites In message e809eaf9-1182-43fc-82ab-6415c5f83d68@blur, k4...@aol.com writes: I see page 18 subframe 4 is now broadcasting a pending leap second being transmitted by the GPS sats. I had

Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds now showing on GPS satellites

2012-02-10 Thread J. L. Trantham
and frequencymeasurement' Subject: [time-nuts] Leap seconds now showing on GPS satellites I see page 18 subframe 4 is now broadcasting a pending leap second being transmitted by the GPS sats. I had checked it earlier this week and they were still transmitting the old data. But sometime between Monday and today

Re: [time-nuts] Leap seconds now showing on GPS satellites

2012-02-10 Thread Hal Murray
It got here around 2785 seconds UTC after midnight on Feb 10th. (unless I fatfingered something) From a NTP log file while watching a HP Z3801A. The + says insert a leap second. 55967 2401.038 127.127.26.1 T2201202100040023001028 64 0 55967 2465.034 127.127.26.1 T220120210004106300102D 64