Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-17 Thread Bob Camp
Hi > On Jan 16, 2016, at 7:29 PM, Nathan Johnson wrote: > > Right now I'm mostly aligning IF stages of boat anchor rigs, not designing new > stuff or trying to evaluate performance of newer rigs, so I think the 8660 > will > do the job until I can afford something better. I'm debating what to

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-17 Thread jimlux
On 1/16/16 4:29 PM, Nathan Johnson wrote: Right now I'm mostly aligning IF stages of boat anchor rigs, An inexpensive eval board with a synthesizer chip might work for this, like the Si570. Aligning the IF doesn't require great phase noise performance. this is probably a <$50 solution. Pai

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-17 Thread Nathan Johnson
Right now I'm mostly aligning IF stages of boat anchor rigs, not designing new stuff or trying to evaluate performance of newer rigs, so I think the 8660 will do the job until I can afford something better. I'm debating what to buy later, but it appears most of the older rigs with better specs a

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-16 Thread Rob Sherwood .
I did some interpolation to compare the specs for phase noise of the 8660 the way it was done then to the present method. I think it is going to be something like -105 dBc/Hz to -110 dBc/Hz at 10 kHz offset at 14 MHz carrier frequency. As a comparison, the 8662A is about -135 dBc/Hz and the 864

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-16 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 1/14/2016 12:35 PM, Nathan Johnson wrote: What does the group think of the HP 8660? Just scored a broken one too cheap to pass up. I know it's not gonna be the last signal generator I buy, but for under $100 shipped it should be an interesting project. Nathan KK4REY When I worked at HP, I

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-15 Thread Scott McGrath
: >>>>>> Good thread everyone. >>>>>> Nathan you have received a lot of wisdom and humor today. >>>>>> Yes for sub $200 you can be in good shape. >>>>>> If lucent remember a Ref0 needs an arduino and a good GPS 1 PPS. >>>&g

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-14 Thread Rob Sherwood .
s play well. >>>>> If a Ref1 it has a GPS in and no need for the arduino. The $175 gets >> you a >>>>> ref1 and ref0 combo that tie together usually with a cable thats >> shipped >>>>> with the units. >>>>> Mine were brand spanking n

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-14 Thread paul swed
>> Though frankly even neo6s play well. > > >>> If a Ref1 it has a GPS in and no need for the arduino. The $175 gets > > you a > > >>> ref1 and ref0 combo that tie together usually with a cable thats > > shipped > > >>> with the units. > &g

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-14 Thread Nathan Johnson
ed or anything but the gear builds up. Darn > thing is > >>> this stuff actually last longer then an iPhone99X due out tomorrow I am > >>> sure. > >>> Paul > >>> WB8TSL > >>> > >>>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Rob Sherw

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-11 Thread paul swed
row I am > >>> sure. > >>> Paul > >>> WB8TSL > >>> > >>>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Rob Sherwood. wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Paul, > >>>> > >>>> Your last paragraph wa

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-11 Thread Rob Sherwood .
ne99X due out tomorrow I am >>> sure. >>> Paul >>> WB8TSL >>> >>>> On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 4:31 PM, Rob Sherwood. wrote: >>>> >>>> Paul, >>>> >>>> Your last paragraph was a hoot. A ham friend of mine recen

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-11 Thread bownes
ented a >>> storage shed to keep all his spare test equipment and parts units. Another >>> ham friend used to have four storage units to store all his "stuff". The >>> disease is not curable with either time or antibiotics. >>> >>> My XYL will have

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-11 Thread Ian Stirling
On 01/10/2016 01:25 PM, Nathan Johnson wrote: Pretty sure this is where I want to go. I'm looking at Item# 231803015799 on the usual auction site, and this seems to be everything I need? I also looked at item# 111514491254 Nathan, I have an NTBW50AA. It can be monitored and controlled by th

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-11 Thread Rob Sherwood .
ham friend used to have four storage units to store all his "stuff". The >> disease is not curable with either time or antibiotics. >> >> My XYL will have to deal with two homes with labs and ham shacks, 7 >> towers, 13 yagis, etc. when I am SK. Need I say

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-11 Thread paul swed
er > > ham friend used to have four storage units to store all his "stuff". The > > disease is not curable with either time or antibiotics. > > > > My XYL will have to deal with two homes with labs and ham shacks, 7 > > towers, 13 yagis, etc. when I am SK. Nee

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-11 Thread Nathan Johnson
es with labs and ham shacks, 7 > towers, 13 yagis, etc. when I am SK. Need I say more. > > Rob > NC0B > > -Original Message- > From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of paul swed > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 1:56 PM > To: Discussion of precise ti

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-10 Thread paul swed
e-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of paul swed > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 1:56 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions > > > > Nathan, > Bob shared a link for the Lucent uni

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-10 Thread Don Latham
s [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of paul swed > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 1:56 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions > > > > Nathan, > Bob shared a link for the Lucent units and a

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-10 Thread Rob Sherwood .
ecise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions Nathan, Bob shared a link for the Lucent units and a great amount of detail has been shared on Time-nuts about them. They will do what you want. The Ref0 requires a external GPS receiver and another

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-10 Thread Rob Sherwood .
al Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Johnson Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 11:26 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions Hello All, I'm a ham radio operator, for just a few years, and electronics nut for man

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-10 Thread paul swed
Nathan, Bob shared a link for the Lucent units and a great amount of detail has been shared on Time-nuts about them. They will do what you want. The Ref0 requires a external GPS receiver and another Time-Nuts Arduino. It works really well and the quality of the ref0 seems to be that of the 1pps fee

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-10 Thread Lizeth Norman
Spend reasonable money. Learn, ask questions, rinse and repeat. It's how a mountain of stuff followed me home. Wife is cool with it. Electrical fires are a learning experience. Try not to repeat those. On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Nathan Johnson wrote: > Hello All, > I'm a ham radio operator

Re: [time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-10 Thread Bob Camp
Hi > On Jan 10, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Nathan Johnson wrote: > > Hello All, > I'm a ham radio operator, for just a few years, and electronics nut for many > more. I have been reading the archives and trying to learn a bit. I am wanting > to develop an accurate frequency standard for "lab" and radio u

[time-nuts] New Member + Basic Questions

2016-01-10 Thread Nathan Johnson
Hello All, I'm a ham radio operator, for just a few years, and electronics nut for many more. I have been reading the archives and trying to learn a bit. I am wanting to develop an accurate frequency standard for "lab" and radio use. I see that I have 3 basic options that are possible on my bud