Re: [time-nuts] New NIST Time Code to Boost Reception for Radio-Controlled Clocks

2014-06-01 Thread paul swed
Good morning to the group I do have the extendwave chip sheets. But they are 668K generally in size so can not send through Time-nuts. I have sent them to Scott already. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 11:34 PM, Alexander Pummer wrote: > here is a description how a receiver works fo

Re: [time-nuts] New NIST Time Code to Boost Reception for Radio-Controlled Clocks

2014-05-31 Thread Alexander Pummer
here is a description how a receiver works for a time signal with very similar modulation http://caxapa.ru/thumbs/417284/Engeler_DCF77.pdf 73 KJ6UHN On 5/31/2014 2:23 PM, paul swed wrote: I had reached out several times to the new wwvb chip maker for this timecode. And though first run chips we

Re: [time-nuts] New NIST Time Code to Boost Reception for Radio-Controlled Clocks

2014-05-31 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The price of the spin isn’t just the cost of the masks. There’s a non-trivial cost involved in the redesign of the chip and the testing that finds the problem. You can indeed do a project run for $5,000 and get usable chips. The same process moved to a single wafer also can give you a few

Re: [time-nuts] New NIST Time Code to Boost Reception for Radio-Controlled Clocks

2014-05-31 Thread Jim Lux
On 5/31/14, 5:48 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi A thousand chips at $1 a chip is a very different thing than a thousand chips at $100 a chip. The next issue might be that they only have them in die form. The issue after that probably is that you really want the version 3 (or 9) chips that actually wo

Re: [time-nuts] New NIST Time Code to Boost Reception for Radio-Controlled Clocks

2014-05-31 Thread Bob Camp
Hi A thousand chips at $1 a chip is a very different thing than a thousand chips at $100 a chip. The next issue might be that they only have them in die form. The issue after that probably is that you really want the version 3 (or 9) chips that actually work with all the modulation schemes. I’v

Re: [time-nuts] New NIST Time Code to Boost Reception for Radio-Controlled Clocks

2014-05-31 Thread Scott Newell
At 04:23 PM 5/31/2014, paul swed wrote: And though first run chips were available they are not to us unless we want 1000 of them. Also pricing is unclear. If they don't have distribution set up yet, I can understand 1k min orders...but no samples? That said yes the intent is to receive tim

Re: [time-nuts] New NIST Time Code to Boost Reception for Radio-Controlled Clocks

2014-05-31 Thread paul swed
I had reached out several times to the new wwvb chip maker for this timecode. And though first run chips were available they are not to us unless we want 1000 of them. Also pricing is unclear. That said yes the intent is to receive time. The new chip doesn't easily allow a way to d-psk the signal.

[time-nuts] New NIST Time Code to Boost Reception for Radio-Controlled Clocks

2014-05-31 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi: What are the left two digits telling us? http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/wwvb-030513.cfm I've emailed John Lowe & James Burrus the above question and for more information about the different transmission modes as well as more information about the hardware shown on the above web page. -- H