Re: [time-nuts] Picotest U6200A Timelab
Arthur, I had also some trouble in buying the counter. I had originally ordered the 20 GHz version of the counter from a different dealer for about 2000 Euros. Then it turned out that the 20 GHz option alone (i.e. without the counter) costs 2000 Euros. Then I decided to stay at the 6 GHz version. I bought my counter here: http://www.oscomp.de/products.aspx?language_id=2menu_id=2channel_id=1cate gory_id=14product_id=315 and the price was 1299.50 Euros + 89 Euros for the GPIB card. Both prices are without taxes and I am not aware whether they would deliver to outside Europe. Best regards Ulrich -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] Im Auftrag von Arthur Dent Gesendet: Samstag, 11. Februar 2012 15:08 An: time-nuts@febo.com Betreff: [time-nuts] Picotest U6200A Timelab Ulrich Bangert- a few weeks ago a link to a new counter named U6200A was to be found here in the group. I considered the technical properties of this counter (which is sold under the brands Array or Picotest) that interesting at its price that i ordered one immediately. + Actually the counter was very briefly discussed 4 months ago in VIGO time interval devices 10-31-2011 where I posted: Has anyone looked into the Picotest (also sold as Array) U6200A TIC? Looks like DC-6Ghz with 12 digits/sec and 40ps resolution. Check the specs at: http://www.picotest.com.tw/product02.html One seller on the popular auction site has them for $1270 (with shipping). Interestingly the $1200 price was much lower than everyone else was asking by about $1000. I didn't buy one but in December someone did buy one and posted this feedback: Bought item a month ago. now asking me to pay $900 more. The seller apparently didn't do their currency conversion correctly. I don't know if the buyer had to pay the difference or not but I'd guess not. -Arthur ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Picotest U6200A Timelab
Bob, If I hit the Acquire / U6200A entry in the Timelab menu will it buy one for me? Perhaps John is willing to add an Buy item for me menu entry? How noisy is it? Put another way, it has 40 ps resolution, how close can you get to that in terms of accuracy? Good question! That is what I am currently trying to evaluate. But for that purpose I wanted to have TimeLab up and running first. Best regards Ulrich -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] Im Auftrag von Bob Camp Gesendet: Samstag, 11. Februar 2012 14:08 An: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Betreff: Re: [time-nuts] Picotest U6200A Timelab Hi If I hit the Acquire / U6200A entry in the Timelab menu will it buy one for me? How noisy is it? Put another way, it has 40 ps resolution, how close can you get to that in terms of accuracy? Looks like a cool toy, thanks for sharing. Bob On Feb 11, 2012, at 7:52 AM, Ulrich Bangert df...@ulrich-bangert.de wrote: Gentlemen, a few weeks ago a link to a new counter named U6200A was to be found here in the group. I considered the technical properties of this counter (which is sold under the brands Array or Picotest) that interesting at its price that i ordered one immediately. I did not buy it directly from China but instead from a German importer called OSCOMP. They were able to deliver me the counter with a built in GPIB-interface. I had not been able to allocate a seller in China with this option. I am currently testing the counter and as far everything looks pretty good. You can get an impression of the counter's capabilities by the direct comparison to the industry standard here: http://www.stantronic.de/b/Comparison-U6200A.pdf At its price and the 40 ps single shot resolution it may be a good idea to buy such a counter new for time nuts purposes instead of hunting for used 5370s and SR620s. Since the manual claims that the counter features a HP53132 compatible SCPI command languge I tried to run John Miles's Timelab with the counter which failed in the beginning. Due to John's immediate reaction on my inquiry concerning the U6200a Timelab now has its own hardware entry for te U6200A in the Acquire menu and my tests show that Timelab runs like charm with the U6200A. Note that Timelab checks the device id with a *IDN? and the current version recognizes the Picotest brand answer to this. This may be different with the Array brand id. Best regards Ulrich Bangert www.ulrich-bangert.de Ortholzer Weg 1 27243 Gross Ippener Germany ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Picotest U6200A Timelab
Paul, please don't get me wrong: I own a 5370A and a SR620 myself and I am happy with them. But they CAN generate you a lot of trouble starting with bad ic sockets and ending with serious faults of the 5370's interpolator board. I got my 5370 only running through the help of a friend who repairs stuff at the local surplus dealer. If one is willing to dive deeply in his equipment the boat anchors may be the better choice. For someone who simply needs a good tool the Picotest may be the better choice. Best regards Ulrich -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] Im Auftrag von paul swed Gesendet: Samstag, 11. Februar 2012 16:42 An: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Betreff: Re: [time-nuts] Picotest U6200A Timelab Indeed interesting but the 5370s seem to go for $300-400 and this $1750. I had been lucky to get my 5370s pre-interest price accelerator so $50-75. Because who would ever want such a heavy thing? Much as I love the modern interfaces, size, quite, and low power consumption. The boat anchors stay. ;-) Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi If I hit the Acquire / U6200A entry in the Timelab menu will it buy one for me? How noisy is it? Put another way, it has 40 ps resolution, how close can you get to that in terms of accuracy? Looks like a cool toy, thanks for sharing. Bob On Feb 11, 2012, at 7:52 AM, Ulrich Bangert df...@ulrich-bangert.de wrote: Gentlemen, a few weeks ago a link to a new counter named U6200A was to be found here in the group. I considered the technical properties of this counter (which is sold under the brands Array or Picotest) that interesting at its price that i ordered one immediately. I did not buy it directly from China but instead from a German importer called OSCOMP. They were able to deliver me the counter with a built in GPIB-interface. I had not been able to allocate a seller in China with this option. I am currently testing the counter and as far everything looks pretty good. You can get an impression of the counter's capabilities by the direct comparison to the industry standard here: http://www.stantronic.de/b/Comparison-U6200A.pdf At its price and the 40 ps single shot resolution it may be a good idea to buy such a counter new for time nuts purposes instead of hunting for used 5370s and SR620s. Since the manual claims that the counter features a HP53132 compatible SCPI command languge I tried to run John Miles's Timelab with the counter which failed in the beginning. Due to John's immediate reaction on my inquiry concerning the U6200a Timelab now has its own hardware entry for te U6200A in the Acquire menu and my tests show that Timelab runs like charm with the U6200A. Note that Timelab checks the device id with a *IDN? and the current version recognizes the Picotest brand answer to this. This may be different with the Array brand id. Best regards Ulrich Bangert www.ulrich-bangert.de Ortholzer Weg 1 27243 Gross Ippener Germany ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Picotest U6200A Timelab
On 2/11/12 7:42 AM, paul swed wrote: Indeed interesting but the 5370s seem to go for $300-400 and this $1750. I had been lucky to get my 5370s pre-interest price accelerator so $50-75. Because who would ever want such a heavy thing? Much as I love the modern interfaces, size, quite, and low power consumption. The boat anchors stay. ;-) But comparing new with warranty to used isn't necessarily a fair comparison. What you're essentially doing is trading your labor (to potentially make repairs) and risk for money, so the trade between the two is highly dependent on your risk acceptance posture and your labor costs. It's also important if you need more than a one-off system. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Picotest U6200A Timelab
Gentlemen, a few weeks ago a link to a new counter named U6200A was to be found here in the group. I considered the technical properties of this counter (which is sold under the brands Array or Picotest) that interesting at its price that i ordered one immediately. I did not buy it directly from China but instead from a German importer called OSCOMP. They were able to deliver me the counter with a built in GPIB-interface. I had not been able to allocate a seller in China with this option. I am currently testing the counter and as far everything looks pretty good. You can get an impression of the counter's capabilities by the direct comparison to the industry standard here: http://www.stantronic.de/b/Comparison-U6200A.pdf At its price and the 40 ps single shot resolution it may be a good idea to buy such a counter new for time nuts purposes instead of hunting for used 5370s and SR620s. Since the manual claims that the counter features a HP53132 compatible SCPI command languge I tried to run John Miles's Timelab with the counter which failed in the beginning. Due to John's immediate reaction on my inquiry concerning the U6200a Timelab now has its own hardware entry for te U6200A in the Acquire menu and my tests show that Timelab runs like charm with the U6200A. Note that Timelab checks the device id with a *IDN? and the current version recognizes the Picotest brand answer to this. This may be different with the Array brand id. Best regards Ulrich Bangert www.ulrich-bangert.de Ortholzer Weg 1 27243 Gross Ippener Germany ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Picotest U6200A Timelab
Hi If I hit the Acquire / U6200A entry in the Timelab menu will it buy one for me? How noisy is it? Put another way, it has 40 ps resolution, how close can you get to that in terms of accuracy? Looks like a cool toy, thanks for sharing. Bob On Feb 11, 2012, at 7:52 AM, Ulrich Bangert df...@ulrich-bangert.de wrote: Gentlemen, a few weeks ago a link to a new counter named U6200A was to be found here in the group. I considered the technical properties of this counter (which is sold under the brands Array or Picotest) that interesting at its price that i ordered one immediately. I did not buy it directly from China but instead from a German importer called OSCOMP. They were able to deliver me the counter with a built in GPIB-interface. I had not been able to allocate a seller in China with this option. I am currently testing the counter and as far everything looks pretty good. You can get an impression of the counter's capabilities by the direct comparison to the industry standard here: http://www.stantronic.de/b/Comparison-U6200A.pdf At its price and the 40 ps single shot resolution it may be a good idea to buy such a counter new for time nuts purposes instead of hunting for used 5370s and SR620s. Since the manual claims that the counter features a HP53132 compatible SCPI command languge I tried to run John Miles's Timelab with the counter which failed in the beginning. Due to John's immediate reaction on my inquiry concerning the U6200a Timelab now has its own hardware entry for te U6200A in the Acquire menu and my tests show that Timelab runs like charm with the U6200A. Note that Timelab checks the device id with a *IDN? and the current version recognizes the Picotest brand answer to this. This may be different with the Array brand id. Best regards Ulrich Bangert www.ulrich-bangert.de Ortholzer Weg 1 27243 Gross Ippener Germany ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
[time-nuts] Picotest U6200A Timelab
Ulrich Bangert- a few weeks ago a link to a new counter named U6200A was to be found here in the group. I considered the technical properties of this counter (which is sold under the brands Array or Picotest) that interesting at its price that i ordered one immediately. + Actually the counter was very briefly discussed 4 months ago in VIGO time interval devices 10-31-2011 where I posted: Has anyone looked into the Picotest (also sold as Array) U6200A TIC? Looks like DC-6Ghz with 12 digits/sec and 40ps resolution. Check the specs at: http://www.picotest.com.tw/product02.html One seller on the popular auction site has them for $1270 (with shipping). Interestingly the $1200 price was much lower than everyone else was asking by about $1000. I didn't buy one but in December someone did buy one and posted this feedback: Bought item a month ago. now asking me to pay $900 more. The seller apparently didn't do their currency conversion correctly. I don't know if the buyer had to pay the difference or not but I'd guess not. -Arthur ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Picotest U6200A Timelab
Indeed interesting but the 5370s seem to go for $300-400 and this $1750. I had been lucky to get my 5370s pre-interest price accelerator so $50-75. Because who would ever want such a heavy thing? Much as I love the modern interfaces, size, quite, and low power consumption. The boat anchors stay. ;-) Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi If I hit the Acquire / U6200A entry in the Timelab menu will it buy one for me? How noisy is it? Put another way, it has 40 ps resolution, how close can you get to that in terms of accuracy? Looks like a cool toy, thanks for sharing. Bob On Feb 11, 2012, at 7:52 AM, Ulrich Bangert df...@ulrich-bangert.de wrote: Gentlemen, a few weeks ago a link to a new counter named U6200A was to be found here in the group. I considered the technical properties of this counter (which is sold under the brands Array or Picotest) that interesting at its price that i ordered one immediately. I did not buy it directly from China but instead from a German importer called OSCOMP. They were able to deliver me the counter with a built in GPIB-interface. I had not been able to allocate a seller in China with this option. I am currently testing the counter and as far everything looks pretty good. You can get an impression of the counter's capabilities by the direct comparison to the industry standard here: http://www.stantronic.de/b/Comparison-U6200A.pdf At its price and the 40 ps single shot resolution it may be a good idea to buy such a counter new for time nuts purposes instead of hunting for used 5370s and SR620s. Since the manual claims that the counter features a HP53132 compatible SCPI command languge I tried to run John Miles's Timelab with the counter which failed in the beginning. Due to John's immediate reaction on my inquiry concerning the U6200a Timelab now has its own hardware entry for te U6200A in the Acquire menu and my tests show that Timelab runs like charm with the U6200A. Note that Timelab checks the device id with a *IDN? and the current version recognizes the Picotest brand answer to this. This may be different with the Array brand id. Best regards Ulrich Bangert www.ulrich-bangert.de Ortholzer Weg 1 27243 Gross Ippener Germany ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
