Re: [time-nuts] Time-nuts question on message size??? 119KB vs 165KB

2014-07-11 Thread paul swed
Thanks Tom and Hal I was trying to understand what the change was and now I know the pix get bigger. I will keep that in mind for the future. Regards Paul. On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Tom Van Baak (lab) wrote: > Paul, > > Your expectation works for text attachments. But binary attachments

Re: [time-nuts] Time-nuts question on message size??? 119KB vs 165KB

2014-07-11 Thread Bob Camp
Hi There are *some* mail outfits that will reject anything over 64K bytes. I have not had to deal with any for a while, but they are still out there. How they continue to operate with those sort of limits, I have no idea. Bob On Jul 11, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Tom Van Baak (lab) wrote: > Paul, >

Re: [time-nuts] Time-nuts question on message size??? 119KB vs 165KB

2014-07-11 Thread Tom Van Baak (lab)
Paul, Your expectation works for text attachments. But binary attachments (e.g., jpg) expand about 33%. That's 8/6, or log2(256)/log2(64), due to base64 encoding of 8-bit bytes. In general, large attachments on this list are ok. It's just that when they are above 128k they are temporarily held

Re: [time-nuts] Time-nuts question on message size??? 119KB vs 165KB

2014-07-11 Thread paul swed
Thanks Hal Yes I sent the same email to my business account and could see it was 148KB. Gmail does not give you email size "cause they sell storage". So they make it hard to manage your folders and the sizes. I did use thunderbird for a bit and may need to go back to that. It did however tend to cl

Re: [time-nuts] Time-nuts question on message size??? 119KB vs 165KB

2014-07-11 Thread Hal Murray
paulsw...@gmail.com said: > Trying to keep the message and attachements below the 128KB limit. I send a > 119KB message and it gets held as a 165KB message. Can someone help me to > understand the difference please? My guess would be base64 encoding? For binary files, you only get 6 bits per (

[time-nuts] Time-nuts question on message size??? 119KB vs 165KB

2014-07-11 Thread paul swed
Trying to keep the message and attachements below the 128KB limit. I send a 119KB message and it gets held as a 165KB message. Can someone help me to understand the difference please? Thanks Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To