Re: [time-nuts] Z38xx rack mounts

2014-10-23 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
Hi Mike, Many thanks for the information, but as I understood it the question was asked with regards to the Z38xx Telecom styled units and not those variants such as the HP58503 series that were indeed built into HP desktop cases as you describe. The HP Z3801A etc and similar units from

[time-nuts] Z38xx rack mounts

2014-10-22 Thread Dave M
I have a couple questions regarding the Z38xx type units. I have a Z3801A, and a couple other modules that don't need a full 19 rack space. The Z38xx units are 11 wide (10-9/16 mounting centers) , and obviously are not suitable for a standard 19 rack cabinet. Looking in the Z3801A manual, I

Re: [time-nuts] Z38xx rack mounts

2014-10-22 Thread Hal Murray
dgmin...@mediacombb.net said: The Z38xx units are 11 wide (10-9/16 mounting centers) Looking in the Z3801A manual, I see that the rack trays that these units are mounted in are 28.5 wide ... I think lots of (most?) Telco gear uses 23 inch racks. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam.

Re: [time-nuts] Z38xx rack mounts

2014-10-22 Thread Bruce Lane
Something I've done for several projects is to seek help from these nice folk: http://www.frontpanelexpress.com/ A custom panel I did so I could rack-mount my Comcrap cable modem (along with the rest of the network gear) ran about $75 or so. What I would suggest

Re: [time-nuts] Z38xx rack mounts

2014-10-22 Thread paul swed
Yes many telco racks of old were 24 and as I recall nasa or someone had 28. That said I did what Bruce suggest some 8-10 years ago. Al panel spray painted to math the 3801 and cut a hole to fit the unit. Not having clever tools lots of drill holes a hack saw and then cleanup with a file. Came out

Re: [time-nuts] Z38xx rack mounts

2014-10-22 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
Hi Dave Many thanks for the MTI260 data, that's very useful and much appreciated. As regards the the Z38xx modules, my Z3801As actually measure 10 9/16 between the front panel edges but obviously still too much to fit two like that into a standard 19 inch rack. I've considered two

Re: [time-nuts] Z38xx rack mounts

2014-10-22 Thread Lee Mushel
- Original Message - From: Dave M dgmin...@mediacombb.net To: FEBO Time Nuts time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 2:44 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Z38xx rack mounts I have a couple questions regarding the Z38xx type units. I have a Z3801A, and a couple other modules that don't

Re: [time-nuts] Z38xx rack mounts

2014-10-22 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
Plan B and a half. or C and three quarters or whatever:-) I just measured a Z3801A case, can't speak for any others in the series, and that measures 9 1/4 inches from one outside edge of the front panel to the opposite side of the box itself. Cutting off opposing edges from two front

Re: [time-nuts] Z38xx rack mounts

2014-10-22 Thread Mike S
On 10/22/2014 4:44 PM, Dave M wrote: The Z38xx units are 11 wide (10-9/16 mounting centers) , and obviously are not suitable for a standard 19 rack cabinet. The Nortel GPSR (aka HP z3801a) was mounted vertically in a chassis which was itself rack mounted. It's 11 tall, not wide.

Re: [time-nuts] Z38xx rack mounts

2014-10-22 Thread paul swed
I should also add check your racks mileage may very a bit... On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 6:10 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: Well accept one possible problem the open width of a 19 rack is typically 18. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:53 PM, GandalfG8--- via time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Z38xx rack mounts

2014-10-22 Thread paul swed
Well accept one possible problem the open width of a 19 rack is typically 18. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 5:53 PM, GandalfG8--- via time-nuts time-nuts@febo.com wrote: Plan B and a half. or C and three quarters or whatever:-) I just measured a Z3801A case, can't speak

Re: [time-nuts] Z38xx rack mounts

2014-10-22 Thread GandalfG8--- via time-nuts
It's actually not a problem, as I mentioned before the boxes themselves are only 8 inches wide and centered in the panel. If you cut each panel down to 9 1/2 inches that would leave a separation between the boxes themselves of 1/2 inch so overall width behind the panel would be 16 1/2

Re: [time-nuts] Z38xx rack mounts

2014-10-22 Thread Dave M
Mike S wrote: On 10/22/2014 4:44 PM, Dave M wrote: The Z38xx units are 11 wide (10-9/16 mounting centers) , and obviously are not suitable for a standard 19 rack cabinet. The Nortel GPSR (aka HP z3801a) was mounted vertically in a chassis which was itself rack mounted. It's 11 tall, not wide.

Re: [time-nuts] Z38xx rack mounts

2014-10-22 Thread Michael Blazer
Nigel, These are standard HP 1/2 rack units. The rubber bezel around the front and back peel off. HP (Agilent, now Keysight) makes a Link Lock Kit http://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-Agilent-Lock-Link-Kit-5061-5458-/291271152251?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item43d11d127b to connect the units. The