Re: [time-nuts] connectors

2014-11-08 Thread BIll Ezell
Hah, don't we all. I look at the physical connector whenever I'm doing a layout. I used to be able to see the tiny, virtually invisible numbers that most of them have molded into the plastic. I can't see them anymore. :) I've conveniently managed to forget all the layouts I screwed up with

Re: [time-nuts] connectors

2014-11-08 Thread Hal Murray
w...@quackers.net said: Hah, don't we all. I look at the physical connector whenever I'm doing a layout. I used to be able to see the tiny, virtually invisible numbers that most of them have molded into the plastic. I can't see them anymore. :) I've conveniently managed to forget all the

[time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-14 Thread Mark Sims
Another nifty product from 3M is their cold shrink tubing. It is a rubber tube stretched over a peel-able spiral core. You insert the tube over the cable/connector and peel out the core. The rubber shrinks down over the cable and forms a tight seal. It is typically used on buried cables. I

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-14 Thread Robert Atkinson
measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Saturday, 13 April 2013, 19:56 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Connectors OK, so we seem to have: 1)  Scotch 130 rubber tape 2)  Scotch 33 electrical tape 3)  Scotchkote in that order. So the rubber tape waterproofs the connection and the scotch kote protects it from

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors glue lined heatshrink

2013-04-14 Thread Robert Atkinson
...@blackmountainforge.com To: n...@verizon.net; 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sunday, 14 April 2013, 3:08 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Connectors Kind of a cool technology -- they bombard the outside of the tube with an electron beam that cross-links the polymer

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-14 Thread Christopher Brown
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Connectors Sorry, not neoprene but self-sealing polyisobutyl tape, very effective for the outdoor antenna work**. I have recently opened a sealed connection, after 10 years, and the protected connector appears as new

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-13 Thread brent evers
of outside cable work. Rob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Azelio Boriani Sent: 12 April 2013 14:00 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Connectors Sorry

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-13 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
OK, so we seem to have: 1) Scotch 130 rubber tape 2) Scotch 33 electrical tape 3) Scotchkote in that order. So the rubber tape waterproofs the connection and the scotch kote protects it from UV, so what does the electrical tape do? Or maybe, the electrical tape does the waterproofing and

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-13 Thread Hal Murray
Can someone in the know clarify this? I'm not in the know. Several years ago, I found a short chunk of coax that the cable TV guys had left on the ground. It included a piece of heavy wall shrink tubing. There was a layer of sticky goop between the coax and the shrink tubing. -- These

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-13 Thread paul swed
Rick It is a very rare time I get to answer you. The plastic tape holds the rubber end initially, adds another layer of wx, and in reality is sacrificial to UV over the years. First the liquid rubber gives up. Then the plastic. Thats a big clue when it gets ratty. Time to change. Fact is even at

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-13 Thread David
On Sat, 13 Apr 2013 14:07:05 -0700, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: Can someone in the know clarify this? I'm not in the know. Several years ago, I found a short chunk of coax that the cable TV guys had left on the ground. It included a piece of heavy wall shrink tubing. There

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-13 Thread Peter Gottlieb
Think of heat shrink with a layer of hot melt glue on the inside. Such stuff is used in most outdoor and especially underground utility wiring. Shrink the tubing and it melts the glue and the contracting tubing forces the glue into every crevice making a great waterproof splice. On

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-13 Thread paul swed
Yes its from the heat shrink. When they shrink the wrap it forms an air proof seal. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: Can someone in the know clarify this? I'm not in the know. Several years ago, I found a short chunk of coax

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-13 Thread DaveH
...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Peter Gottlieb Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 15:24 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Connectors Think of heat shrink with a layer of hot melt glue on the inside. Such stuff is used in most outdoor and especially

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-13 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 6:58 AM, brent evers brent.ev...@gmail.com wrote: Scotchkote! Yes - Thank you for the correction! The other could lead to disaster! Nope - not ex-navy. Its pretty standard practice in the offshore world. My time was spent on research vessels down in Antarctica. I

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-12 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The fancy F connectors are indeed waterproof if: 1) You have the right cable 2) The cable and connector match up 3) The tool and the connector match up The auction sites are a great place to get samples of connectors and tools that apparently work with no known cable … If you are not

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-12 Thread Azelio Boriani
Sorry, not neoprene but self-sealing polyisobutyl tape, very effective for the outdoor antenna work**. I have recently opened a sealed connection, after 10 years, and the protected connector appears as new. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 2:38 PM, Azelio Boriani azelio.bori...@screen.itwrote: I use

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-12 Thread Rob Kimberley
of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Connectors Sorry, not neoprene but self-sealing polyisobutyl tape, very effective for the outdoor antenna work**. I have recently opened a sealed connection, after 10 years, and the protected connector appears as new. On Fri, Apr

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-12 Thread Volker Esper
Yes, I use those compression types, too, for example http://www.reichelt.de/F-Anschluss/IK-FKPS-49/3/index.html?;ACTION=3;LA=446;ARTICLE=87371;GROUPID=3538;artnr=IK+FKPS+49 Of course, everything has to match, the cable, the connector, the pliers. Be careful with the inner conductor. It's good

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-12 Thread brent evers
Of Azelio Boriani Sent: 12 April 2013 14:00 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Connectors Sorry, not neoprene but self-sealing polyisobutyl tape, very effective for the outdoor antenna work**. I have recently opened a sealed connection, after 10

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-12 Thread Rick Karlquist
brent evers wrote: BTW - 3M Scotch rubber tape is regularly used in the offshore industry to make waterproof connections to 6000m/10,000psi. I use it on any/all outdoor signal (RF/Microwve antenna connectors, amphenol, etc) connectors as well. I cover the rubber tape with a layer of

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-12 Thread Brooke Clarke
and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Connectors Sorry, not neoprene but self-sealing polyisobutyl tape, very effective for the outdoor antenna work**. I have recently opened a sealed connection, after 10 years, and the protected connector appears as new. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 2:38 PM

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-12 Thread Mike S
On 4/12/2013 1:58 PM, Rick Karlquist wrote: What are you referring to as scotchguard? I thought that was a discontinued waterproofing spray for fabric. You must be talking about something else. He may have meant Scotchkote, as in Scotchkote Electrical Coating FD. BTW, Scotchgard is used for

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-12 Thread paul swed
Ohhh man. Yes wrong product ScotchKote. Regards Paul On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Mike S mi...@flatsurface.com wrote: On 4/12/2013 1:58 PM, Rick Karlquist wrote: What are you referring to as scotchguard? I thought that was a discontinued waterproofing spray for fabric. You must be

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-12 Thread paul swed
-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Azelio Boriani Sent: 12 April 2013 14:00 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Connectors Sorry, not neoprene but self-sealing polyisobutyl tape, very effective

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-12 Thread paul swed
Actually though I spelled it wrong I did have the right product. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:31 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: Ohhh man. Yes wrong product ScotchKote. Regards Paul On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Mike S mi...@flatsurface.com wrote: On

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-12 Thread Azelio Boriani
I use neoprene tape to make really water tight connections for all type of connectors. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi The fancy F connectors are indeed waterproof if: 1) You have the right cable 2) The cable and connector match up 3) The tool and the

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-12 Thread paul swed
sorts of outside cable work. Rob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Azelio Boriani Sent: 12 April 2013 14:00 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Connectors Sorry

[time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-11 Thread steve gunsel
Hi, Not too long ago there was an interesting discussion here about RF connectors. I have always wondered about the F connector - used by the boxload in TV distribution. Are they any good for anything else? Just curious. Thanks. Steve - N8MYA ___

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-11 Thread Steve
Steve, Several of them smashed flat, stacked up, and jammed under a door make a low-quality door stop... Steve WB0DBS On Apr 11, 2013, at 11:10 AM, steve gunsel st...@sgteq.com wrote: Hi, Not too long ago there was an interesting discussion here about RF connectors. I have always

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-11 Thread Chris Albertson
The quality varies a LOT. The good ones are the water proof ones they use outdoors. They are made to fit RG6 quad shielded cable and must be installed with a special tool. They are 75 ohm connectors. There are also many junk f-connectors used with rg58 and rg59. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-11 Thread Robert Darlington
They're half decent 75 ohm connectors out to about a GHz if you do that. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 10:10 AM, steve gunsel st...@sgteq.com wrote: Hi, Not too long ago there was an interesting discussion here about RF connectors. I have always wondered about the F connector - used by the

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-11 Thread paul swed
useful and I use them at hf for rcving antennas and such. The quality is all over the place but have used them up to 2 Ghz on occasion. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Robert Darlington rdarling...@gmail.comwrote: They're half decent 75 ohm connectors out to about a GHz

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-11 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Steve: Many GPS receivers are designed with Type-F RF inputs in order to make use of the low cost TV coax. But even if a GPS receiver has a 50 Ohm RF input you can still use 75 Ohm feed line, see my low cost 4-way splitter: http://www.prc68.com/I/4GPS.shtml For most hobbyist use (nano

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-11 Thread Azelio Boriani
The F connector makes up an extremely cheap connection for TV and satellite broadcast antenna cable. I use it even for my GPS antenna cable but I'd rather not recommend it when a stable and repeatable connection is needed. On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 6:10 PM, steve gunsel st...@sgteq.com wrote: Hi,

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-11 Thread Chris Albertson
On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Brooke Clarke bro...@pacific.net wrote: Hi Steve: Many GPS receivers are designed with Type-F RF inputs in order to make use of the low cost TV coax. But even if a GPS receiver has a 50 Ohm RF input you can still use 75 Ohm feed line, Yes they work but more

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors

2013-04-11 Thread Gordon Batey
Greetings, I have used the longitudinal compression F connectors for some time now with several GPS units and RG-6 cable. They certainly appear to be waterproof and quite sturdy. Not inexpensive but very serviceable. I found a kit with the installation tool and connectors and separate

[time-nuts] connectors Re: FW: Re: Low-Cost 6+ GHz Prescaler board for

2010-03-26 Thread jimlux
John Allen wrote: A few notes about the connector. First, I hate BNC connectors. But the BNC is useable to 11 GHz (No vswr spec.), and has a VSWR spec. of 1.3:1 up to 4 GHz. (See link below, about half way down the page.) http://www.amphenolrf.com/products/bnc.asp?N=0sid=4BAAA780568BE17F;

Re: [time-nuts] connectors Re: FW: Re: Low-Cost 6+ GHz Prescaler board for

2010-03-26 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi John: When HP came out with the first VNA (8410) I attended one of the demos. Part of that was testing a BNC cable over the microwave range. It worked much better than I expected. It turns out that the cores of a type-N, TNC and BNC connector are all the same and they will properly

Re: [time-nuts] connectors Re: FW: Re: Low-Cost 6+ GHz Prescaler board for

2010-03-26 Thread K. Szeker
Hi Broke, I think it stays not to discussion, that a better BNC can be usable up to some GHz, but the longtime life cycle is ( through often using impedance changings/unsure contacts) _I think_ clear worser as TNC/N... Have good time! (Im over longtime time-nuts reader ) Karesz 2010/3/26 Brooke

Re: [time-nuts] Connectors for the Datum LPRO Rubidium Oscillator

2008-10-13 Thread K6YAZ
I have ten-pin female connectors for the LPRO Rubidium Oscillators. The cost for two connectors, postage paid in the US is $2.50. If you use these connectors, don't use too much heat and use small wires; there are a lot of pins in a small area. I will accepts checks and PayPal ([EMAIL