Re: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard?

2012-01-17 Thread paul swed
time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard? Date: Dec 13, 2011 10:29 PM If you are going to buffer the output, why does the filter have to be passive? Did I miss something here? Today 10MHz is in the realm of active filters. [Hey, not that I made

Re: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard?

2011-12-14 Thread Timeok
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard? Date: Dec 13, 2011 10:29 PM If you are going to buffer the output, why does the filter have to be passive? Did I miss something here? Today 10MHz is in the realm of active filters. [Hey, not that I made an active filter at 10MHz

Re: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard?

2011-12-14 Thread paul swed
- Original Message From: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard? Date: Dec 13, 2011 10:29 PM If you are going

Re: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard?

2011-12-13 Thread n1jez
: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard? Paul Wade did a paper on 10Mhz GPSDO filtering for Microwave Update in October. It is in the proceedings. I don't know if it is available elsewhere. Bob On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 9:17 PM, li...@lazygranch.com wrote: I think you would want to avoid

Re: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard?

2011-12-13 Thread Robert Darlington
and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard? Paul Wade did a paper on 10Mhz GPSDO filtering for Microwave Update in October. It is in the proceedings. I don't know if it is available elsewhere

Re: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard?

2011-12-13 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Not to take anything away from Paul's design, but if you have to buy the box new, for three bucks more you can get a complete 10.7 MHz LPF with BNC connectors from MiniCircuits (Model BLP-10.7+, $32.95). They also have quite a few other useful cutoff frequencies -- 1.9 MHz, 5 MHz, 30 MHz,

Re: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard?

2011-12-13 Thread shalimr9
...@febo.com Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:54:09 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard? What is the best practice

Re: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard?

2011-12-13 Thread Timeok
measurementquot; lt;time-nuts@febo.comgt; Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard? Paul Wade did a paper on 10Mhz GPSDO filtering for Microwave Update in October. It is in the proceedings. I don't know if it is available elsewhere

[time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard?

2011-12-13 Thread ed breya
I reported a filter design I was working on back in November, using 10 base T LAN filter modules. The first experimental air-wired unit with two modules got to about -75 dBc at 30 MHz, rising to -65 dBc at 70 MHz. After building the same circuit with shielded compartments, it ran about -85

Re: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard?

2011-12-13 Thread Bob Camp
- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of ed breya Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 12:07 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard? I reported a filter design I was working on back in November, using 10 base T

[time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard?

2011-12-13 Thread ed breya
Yes, you don't want to send un-buffered (or unprotected) signals - especially right out of a filter - out for distribution. I have found that some pieces of equipment will only take the external reference over a certain small level range, so the distribution amplifier needs to have an

Re: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard?

2011-12-13 Thread gary
If you are going to buffer the output, why does the filter have to be passive? Did I miss something here? Today 10MHz is in the realm of active filters. [Hey, not that I made an active filter at 10MHz.] Sensitivity is a function of the denominator. The only advantage to a LPF over a BPF is

Re: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard?

2011-12-13 Thread shalimr9
...@febo.com Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:27:54 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard? If you are going

Re: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard?

2011-12-13 Thread gary
Come to think of it, you will have more noise if you use a LPF rather than a BPF, given noise being proportional to the square root of bandwidth. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

[time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard?

2011-12-12 Thread Chris Albertson
What is the best practice for filtering a 10Mhz sine wave frequency standard? I've read that you can do more harm than good. Filter parts (caps, resistors and so on) are all temperature sensitive. But all those $40 Rb oscillators are putting out a pretty rough looking sine wave. Are some types

Re: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard?

2011-12-12 Thread Dan Rae
On 12/12/2011 5:54 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: What is the best practice for filtering a 10Mhz sine wave frequency standard? I've read that you can do more harm than good. Filter parts (caps, resistors and so on) are all temperature sensitive. But all those $40 Rb oscillators are putting out a

Re: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard?

2011-12-12 Thread lists
] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard? Sent: Dec 12, 2011 5:54 PM What is the best practice for filtering a 10Mhz sine wave frequency standard? I've read that you can do more harm than good. Filter parts (caps, resistors and so on) are all temperature sensitive. But all those $40 Rb oscillators

Re: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard?

2011-12-12 Thread Bob Bownes
. --Original Message-- From: Chris Albertson Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement ReplyTo: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] filtering a 10Mhz frequency standard? Sent: Dec 12, 2011 5:54 PM What