Re: [time-nuts] messy workbenches
El 29/09/2012 19:11, Joe Leikhim escribió: I would have to agree that a lot of engineer and tech types fall into these categories. If not, we would probably not have and GPS satellites, cellphones and supersonic planes.(where is my hoverboard?) Not sure. Asperger is a type of autism, and although some geniouses along the history also seems to have suffered some degree of this syndrome, there are a lot of non-so-brilliant people that also suffers it (but since they are not geniouses, nobody has learn about them). In other hand, there have been also a lot of true geniouses that are a lot far from suffering nothing similar to that (for example, Richard Feynmann). Two nice examples of fictional people with that syndrome are Sheldon of Big Bang Theory (although they deny it) and the detective Monk. Best regards, Javier ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] messy workbenches
Hi Rob: For me it's been very helpful to understand myself. Note this is not something to be "cured" it's just the way some people are and the world needs those people. There a book "look me in the eye" that's a true story about the guy who built the special guitars for the rock group KISS. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html Rob Kimberley wrote: Hi Brooke, I'm not sure I should have done that test as I scored 35. Hmmm... Rob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Brooke Clarke Sent: 29 September 2012 14:11 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] messy workbenches Hi: Recently I've discovered Asperger's Syndrome. Although I don't meet all the criteria, I do have a number of the traits. One is living with clutter (this is different from obsessive hording). A common occupation is engineering. AS people are much more comfortable with things as opposed to people. People who work in technical fields or have strong interests, like extremely precise time, may also have this. To find out you can take an online test at: http://www.aspergerstestsite.com/ or read the Wiki page at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome and a movie: "Mozart and the Whale" that's about this. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html DaveH wrote: And Bob Pease trumps all: http://eetimes.com/electronics-blogs/other/4217103/How-messy-is-your-d esk- There is even a gallery of 24 of Engineering's messiest desks here: http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-blogs/social-mania-blog/4217145/Pho to-gal lery--Engineering-s-messiest-desks My primary love is music (analog synthesizers and digital instruments with recording) and the first messy desk pictured is from Christopher Nelson who designs the Sweetwater Sound Creation Station computers -- I own one and love it. It is ironic that: Pease was killed in the crash of his 1969 Volkswagen Beetle, on June 18, 2011. He was leaving a gathering in memory of Jim Williams, who was another well-known analog circuit designer. >From Bob's wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Pease Dave (who has a messy workbench but I know where everything is!!!) -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Grant Saviers Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 18:48 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] messy workbenches George's is a far distant competitor to the bench of the late Jim Williams, see http://www.computerhistory.org/atchm/an-analog-life-rememberin g-jim-williams/ Which was on display at the Computer History Museum and just was returned to Linear Tech. Grant Saviers ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] messy workbenches
Hi Brooke, I'm not sure I should have done that test as I scored 35. Hmmm... Rob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Brooke Clarke Sent: 29 September 2012 14:11 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] messy workbenches Hi: Recently I've discovered Asperger's Syndrome. Although I don't meet all the criteria, I do have a number of the traits. One is living with clutter (this is different from obsessive hording). A common occupation is engineering. AS people are much more comfortable with things as opposed to people. People who work in technical fields or have strong interests, like extremely precise time, may also have this. To find out you can take an online test at: http://www.aspergerstestsite.com/ or read the Wiki page at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome and a movie: "Mozart and the Whale" that's about this. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html DaveH wrote: > And Bob Pease trumps all: > > http://eetimes.com/electronics-blogs/other/4217103/How-messy-is-your-d > esk- > > There is even a gallery of 24 of Engineering's messiest desks here: > > http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-blogs/social-mania-blog/4217145/Pho > to-gal > lery--Engineering-s-messiest-desks > > My primary love is music (analog synthesizers and digital instruments > with > recording) and the first messy desk pictured is from Christopher > Nelson who designs the Sweetwater Sound Creation Station computers -- > I own one and love it. > > It is ironic that: > > Pease was killed in the crash of his > 1969 Volkswagen Beetle, on > June 18, 2011. He was leaving a > gathering in memory of Jim Williams, > who was another well-known > analog circuit designer. > > >From Bob's wikipedia entry: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Pease > > > Dave (who has a messy workbench but I know where everything is!!!) > > >> -Original Message- >> From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com >> [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Grant Saviers >> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 18:48 >> To: time-nuts@febo.com >> Subject: [time-nuts] messy workbenches >> >> George's is a far distant competitor to the bench of the late Jim >> Williams, see >> http://www.computerhistory.org/atchm/an-analog-life-rememberin >> g-jim-williams/ >> >> Which was on display at the Computer History Museum and just was >> returned to Linear Tech. >> >> Grant Saviers >> >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] messy workbenches
Hi Joe: I've seen her TED Talk: http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/temple_grandin_the_world_needs_all_kinds_of_minds.html The movie: Mozart and the Whale is highly recommended. I helps to know what's going on. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html Joe Leikhim wrote: Brooke; I got a 29. Probably would have been much higher at an earlier age as I have grown out of some things. Not sure how accurate some of the questions relate to AS though. I would have to agree that a lot of engineer and tech types fall into these categories. If not, we would probably not have and GPS satellites, cellphones and supersonic planes.(where is my hoverboard?) Have you seen the Temple Grandin movie? In 1994, I was with my wife and then 9yo son in Estes Park Colorado. We stopped in the public library and this "cow girl" started chatting with us, realizing we were new to town telling us what we might want to see etc.. I could recognize she had some unusual speech traits although AS wasn't well known if at all at the time. Years later I saw Temple Grandin on a TV show and realized she was probably the same "cow girl"! ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] messy workbenches
Brooke; I got a 29. Probably would have been much higher at an earlier age as I have grown out of some things. Not sure how accurate some of the questions relate to AS though. I would have to agree that a lot of engineer and tech types fall into these categories. If not, we would probably not have and GPS satellites, cellphones and supersonic planes.(where is my hoverboard?) Have you seen the Temple Grandin movie? In 1994, I was with my wife and then 9yo son in Estes Park Colorado. We stopped in the public library and this "cow girl" started chatting with us, realizing we were new to town telling us what we might want to see etc.. I could recognize she had some unusual speech traits although AS wasn't well known if at all at the time. Years later I saw Temple Grandin on a TV show and realized she was probably the same "cow girl"! -- Joe Leikhim Leikhim and Associates Communications Consultants Oviedo, Florida jleik...@leikhim.com 407-982-0446 WWW.LEIKHIM.COM ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] messy workbenches
Hi: Recently I've discovered Asperger's Syndrome. Although I don't meet all the criteria, I do have a number of the traits. One is living with clutter (this is different from obsessive hording). A common occupation is engineering. AS people are much more comfortable with things as opposed to people. People who work in technical fields or have strong interests, like extremely precise time, may also have this. To find out you can take an online test at: http://www.aspergerstestsite.com/ or read the Wiki page at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome and a movie: "Mozart and the Whale" that's about this. Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html DaveH wrote: And Bob Pease trumps all: http://eetimes.com/electronics-blogs/other/4217103/How-messy-is-your-desk- There is even a gallery of 24 of Engineering's messiest desks here: http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-blogs/social-mania-blog/4217145/Photo-gal lery--Engineering-s-messiest-desks My primary love is music (analog synthesizers and digital instruments with recording) and the first messy desk pictured is from Christopher Nelson who designs the Sweetwater Sound Creation Station computers -- I own one and love it. It is ironic that: Pease was killed in the crash of his 1969 Volkswagen Beetle, on June 18, 2011. He was leaving a gathering in memory of Jim Williams, who was another well-known analog circuit designer. >From Bob's wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Pease Dave (who has a messy workbench but I know where everything is!!!) -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Grant Saviers Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 18:48 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] messy workbenches George's is a far distant competitor to the bench of the late Jim Williams, see http://www.computerhistory.org/atchm/an-analog-life-rememberin g-jim-williams/ Which was on display at the Computer History Museum and just was returned to Linear Tech. Grant Saviers ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] messy workbenches
Proof of an axiom: "Great minds run on the same track." :-) (although strictly speaking, an axiom requires no proof...) Don Max Robinson > Don wrote. > > Latham's law of horizontal surfaces states "Any bare horizontal surface > immediately becomes covered with junk." > > I thought I held the copyrights on that one. Oh well, never mind. > > Regards. > > Max. K 4 O DS. > > Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com > > Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net > Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net > Woodworking site > http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/Woodworking/wwindex.html > Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com > > To subscribe to the fun with transistors group send an email to. > funwithtransistors-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, > funwithtubes-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > To subscribe to the fun with wood group send a blank email to > funwithwood-subscr...@yahoogroups.com > > - Original Message - > From: "Don Latham" > To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" > > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 11:21 PM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] messy workbenches > > >> yep, and you always wind up working on the inch of bench just in front >> of your belly... >> >> Don >> >> Latham's law of horizontal surfaces states "Any bare horizontal >> surface >> immediately becomes covered with junk." >> >> Rex >>> Another serious contender in the messy but productive realm was Bob >>> Pease. >>> http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-blogs/social-mania-blog/4217103/How-messy-is-your-desk- >>> >>> Quite ironic that Bob died while leaving the memorial for Jim >>> Williams. >>> http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/readerschoice/4368147/Analog-engineering-legend-Bob-Pease-killed-in-car-crash >>> >>> >>> >>> On 9/28/2012 6:48 PM, Grant Saviers wrote: >>>> George's is a far distant competitor to the bench of the late Jim >>>> Williams, see >>>> http://www.computerhistory.org/atchm/an-analog-life-remembering-jim-williams/ >>>> >>>> Which was on display at the Computer History Museum and just was >>>> returned to Linear Tech. >>>> >>>> Grant Saviers >>>> >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to >>> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >>> and follow the instructions there. >>> >> >> >> -- >> "Neither the voice of authority nor the weight of reason and argument >> are as significant as experiment, for thence comes quiet to the mind." >> De Erroribus Medicorum, R. Bacon, 13th century. >> "If you don't know what it is, don't poke it." >> Ghost in the Shell >> >> >> Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL >> Six Mile Systems LLP >> 17850 Six Mile Road >> POB 134 >> Huson, MT, 59846 >> VOX 406-626-4304 >> www.lightningforensics.com >> www.sixmilesystems.com >> >> >> >> ___ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> and follow the instructions there. >> > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- "Neither the voice of authority nor the weight of reason and argument are as significant as experiment, for thence comes quiet to the mind." De Erroribus Medicorum, R. Bacon, 13th century. "If you don't know what it is, don't poke it." Ghost in the Shell Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL Six Mile Systems LLP 17850 Six Mile Road POB 134 Huson, MT, 59846 VOX 406-626-4304 www.lightningforensics.com www.sixmilesystems.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] messy workbenches
Don wrote. Latham's law of horizontal surfaces states "Any bare horizontal surface immediately becomes covered with junk." I thought I held the copyrights on that one. Oh well, never mind. Regards. Max. K 4 O DS. Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site http://www.funwithtransistors.net Vacuum tube site: http://www.funwithtubes.net Woodworking site http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/Woodworking/wwindex.html Music site: http://www.maxsmusicplace.com To subscribe to the fun with transistors group send an email to. funwithtransistors-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To subscribe to the fun with tubes group send an email to, funwithtubes-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To subscribe to the fun with wood group send a blank email to funwithwood-subscr...@yahoogroups.com - Original Message - From: "Don Latham" To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] messy workbenches yep, and you always wind up working on the inch of bench just in front of your belly... Don Latham's law of horizontal surfaces states "Any bare horizontal surface immediately becomes covered with junk." Rex Another serious contender in the messy but productive realm was Bob Pease. http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-blogs/social-mania-blog/4217103/How-messy-is-your-desk- Quite ironic that Bob died while leaving the memorial for Jim Williams. http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/readerschoice/4368147/Analog-engineering-legend-Bob-Pease-killed-in-car-crash On 9/28/2012 6:48 PM, Grant Saviers wrote: George's is a far distant competitor to the bench of the late Jim Williams, see http://www.computerhistory.org/atchm/an-analog-life-remembering-jim-williams/ Which was on display at the Computer History Museum and just was returned to Linear Tech. Grant Saviers ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- "Neither the voice of authority nor the weight of reason and argument are as significant as experiment, for thence comes quiet to the mind." De Erroribus Medicorum, R. Bacon, 13th century. "If you don't know what it is, don't poke it." Ghost in the Shell Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL Six Mile Systems LLP 17850 Six Mile Road POB 134 Huson, MT, 59846 VOX 406-626-4304 www.lightningforensics.com www.sixmilesystems.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] messy workbenches
yep, and you always wind up working on the inch of bench just in front of your belly... Don Latham's law of horizontal surfaces states "Any bare horizontal surface immediately becomes covered with junk." Rex > Another serious contender in the messy but productive realm was Bob > Pease. > http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-blogs/social-mania-blog/4217103/How-messy-is-your-desk- > > Quite ironic that Bob died while leaving the memorial for Jim Williams. > http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/readerschoice/4368147/Analog-engineering-legend-Bob-Pease-killed-in-car-crash > > > > On 9/28/2012 6:48 PM, Grant Saviers wrote: >> George's is a far distant competitor to the bench of the late Jim >> Williams, see >> http://www.computerhistory.org/atchm/an-analog-life-remembering-jim-williams/ >> >> Which was on display at the Computer History Museum and just was >> returned to Linear Tech. >> >> Grant Saviers >> > > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > -- "Neither the voice of authority nor the weight of reason and argument are as significant as experiment, for thence comes quiet to the mind." De Erroribus Medicorum, R. Bacon, 13th century. "If you don't know what it is, don't poke it." Ghost in the Shell Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL Six Mile Systems LLP 17850 Six Mile Road POB 134 Huson, MT, 59846 VOX 406-626-4304 www.lightningforensics.com www.sixmilesystems.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] messy workbenches
And Bob Pease trumps all: http://eetimes.com/electronics-blogs/other/4217103/How-messy-is-your-desk- There is even a gallery of 24 of Engineering's messiest desks here: http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-blogs/social-mania-blog/4217145/Photo-gal lery--Engineering-s-messiest-desks My primary love is music (analog synthesizers and digital instruments with recording) and the first messy desk pictured is from Christopher Nelson who designs the Sweetwater Sound Creation Station computers -- I own one and love it. It is ironic that: Pease was killed in the crash of his 1969 Volkswagen Beetle, on June 18, 2011. He was leaving a gathering in memory of Jim Williams, who was another well-known analog circuit designer. >From Bob's wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Pease Dave (who has a messy workbench but I know where everything is!!!) > -Original Message- > From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com > [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Grant Saviers > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 18:48 > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Subject: [time-nuts] messy workbenches > > George's is a far distant competitor to the bench of the late Jim > Williams, see > http://www.computerhistory.org/atchm/an-analog-life-rememberin > g-jim-williams/ > > Which was on display at the Computer History Museum and just was > returned to Linear Tech. > > Grant Saviers > > ___ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] messy workbenches
Another serious contender in the messy but productive realm was Bob Pease. http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-blogs/social-mania-blog/4217103/How-messy-is-your-desk- Quite ironic that Bob died while leaving the memorial for Jim Williams. http://www.edn.com/electronics-blogs/readerschoice/4368147/Analog-engineering-legend-Bob-Pease-killed-in-car-crash On 9/28/2012 6:48 PM, Grant Saviers wrote: George's is a far distant competitor to the bench of the late Jim Williams, see http://www.computerhistory.org/atchm/an-analog-life-remembering-jim-williams/ Which was on display at the Computer History Museum and just was returned to Linear Tech. Grant Saviers ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
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George's is a far distant competitor to the bench of the late Jim Williams, see http://www.computerhistory.org/atchm/an-analog-life-remembering-jim-williams/ Which was on display at the Computer History Museum and just was returned to Linear Tech. Grant Saviers ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
