[time-nuts] Z3801A going into Holdover

2019-06-20 Thread Mark Sims
A few months ago, my 3801A started doing this. It was tracking sats well (several years ago I had to replace the receiver because it had lots of problems acquiring and tracking sats).I swapped in a replacement 10811 OCXO and that fixed the problem. Apparently the problem with the receiver

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A going into Holdover

2019-06-20 Thread Dan Rae via time-nuts
On 6/20/2019 12:41 PM, paul swed wrote: Dan, I think that sounds like the rcvr going. Search the time-nuts archives. That may help you. If thats the case there were also comments on alternate receivers though all of those are old and hard to come by. Thanks Paul,  The concensus seems to favor

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A going into Holdover

2019-06-20 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi Anything odd going on with the EFC voltage before / after holdover? Bob > On Jun 20, 2019, at 1:05 PM, Dan Rae via time-nuts > wrote: > > I have an elderly 3801A with some 182,000 hours on the clock, which if my > arithmetic is correct means over twenty years of operation. Since it has a

Re: [time-nuts] Z3801A going into Holdover

2019-06-20 Thread paul swed
Dan, I think that sounds like the rcvr going. Search the time-nuts archives. That may help you. If thats the case there were also comments on alternate receivers though all of those are old and hard to come by. I also have a 3801 but do not run it all the time. Another issue is that the oven contro

Re: [time-nuts] UBlox as a reference clock source - accuracy ??

2019-06-20 Thread Peter Vince
On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 at 14:08, David Slipper wrote: > > That is probably good enough for my needs and certainly better than the cheap XOs in the instruments. > > BTW I just came across a document "GPS-based Timing Considerations with u-blox 6 GPS receivers - Application Note" that makes interesting

Re: [time-nuts] UBlox as a reference clock source - accuracy ??

2019-06-20 Thread David Slipper
Thanks, I'll look at that :-) On 20/06/2019 10:04, Askild wrote: > Hi, > > If you want to use it as a 10MHz ref for other instruments, you might > consider building a GPSDO with it. > Here is one: > https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/lars-diy-gpsdo-with-arduino-and-1ns-resolution-tic/ > > All

[time-nuts] Z3801A going into Holdover

2019-06-20 Thread Dan Rae via time-nuts
I have an elderly 3801A with some 182,000 hours on the clock, which if my arithmetic is correct means over twenty years of operation.  Since it has a well aged and remarkably stable OCXO I would like to keep it going if possible.  Recently it has been going into Holdover and staying there for n

Re: [time-nuts] UBlox as a reference clock source - accuracy ??

2019-06-20 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The other gotcha is that (as noted in other posts) the signal is not particularly clean noise wise. Given the low cost of a GPSDO these days, going that way is not a really big deal investment wise. Even the low end units will give you a *much* better 10 MHz to drive an instrument than th

Re: [time-nuts] UBlox as a reference clock source - accuracy ??

2019-06-20 Thread David Slipper
That is probably good enough for my needs and certainly better than the cheap XOs in the instruments. BTW I just came across a document "GPS-based Timing Considerations with u-blox 6 GPS receivers - Application Note" that makes interesting reading. Many thanks Dave On 20/06/2019 00:19, Bob kb

Re: [time-nuts] UBlox as a reference clock source - accuracy ??

2019-06-20 Thread Askild
Hi, If you want to use it as a 10MHz ref for other instruments, you might consider building a GPSDO with it. Here is one: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/projects/lars-diy-gpsdo-with-arduino-and-1ns-resolution-tic/ All the information is in the first post. If you read the complete thread, you will