[time-nuts] Is using TAI in Unix/Linux system clocks working in 2019?

2019-08-08 Thread Mark Sims
Systems that need a leap second free time scale these days seem to be using GPS time instead of TAI. It seems to be rather popular in the financial industry. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Precision Time Protocol – Windows 10 implementation

2019-08-08 Thread Tim Lister
On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 8:07 AM Adam Kumiszcza wrote: > > Hi everybody! My first post here, I hope the subject is adequate for this > mailing list. > > I'm using a tiny layer 1 NTP server consisting of Raspberry Pi 3B+ with > Ublox MAX-M8Q expansion board providing GNSS (currently GPS, Galileo and

Re: [time-nuts] Precision Time Protocol – Windows 10 implementation

2019-08-08 Thread David J Taylor via time-nuts
Hi everybody! My first post here, I hope the subject is adequate for this mailing list. I'm using a tiny layer 1 NTP server consisting of Raspberry Pi 3B+ with Ublox MAX-M8Q expansion board providing GNSS (currently GPS, Galileo and Glonass, sometimes I switch to Beidou, too) reference with PPS

Re: [time-nuts] Precision Time Protocol – Windows 10 implementation

2019-08-08 Thread Peter Membrey
Hi Adam, I've only ever used hardware PTP servers (and I'm far from an expert), but PTP is pretty sensitive to latency. It's common for PTP to deployed on dedicated networks to help keep jitter to a minimum (I think I remember one place doing it on Infiniband but I might be wrong). The

Re: [time-nuts] Is using TAI in Unix/Linux system clocks working in 2019?

2019-08-08 Thread jimlux
On 8/8/19 4:24 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: The POSIX specification says that unix time (what gettimeofday returns, the numbers that are stored in the filesystem for mod times) is a strange version of UTC, where it's expressed in seconds since the epoch as if there were no leap seconds. which is

Re: [time-nuts] Is using TAI in Unix/Linux system clocks working in 2019?

2019-08-08 Thread jimlux
On 8/8/19 2:51 AM, Tim Dunker wrote: Dear Ralph I keep all our GNU/Linux machines on UTC (i.e., <>). Our timezone is off by one or two hours, but the actual offset does not matter to me. What matters to me is to have all systems using the same timezone, and for our purposes, nobody cares about

Re: [time-nuts] Is using TAI in Unix/Linux system clocks working in 2019?

2019-08-08 Thread Steve Summit
Ralph Aichinger wrote: > TAI would probably be the more logical way to store and do > calculations with time, only including leap seconds when > formatting time for human consumption. Indeed. Just about everybody I know who's studied this issue carefully has come to more or less the same

Re: [time-nuts] Is using TAI in Unix/Linux system clocks working in 2019?

2019-08-08 Thread jimlux
On 8/8/19 1:30 AM, Ralph Aichinger wrote: Hi! Another newbie type question: When thinking about how computers represent time, TAI would probably be the more logical way to store and do calculations with time, only including leap seconds when formatting time for human consumption. Or am I wrong

Re: [time-nuts] Is using TAI in Unix/Linux system clocks working in 2019?

2019-08-08 Thread Greg Troxel
Ralph Aichinger writes: > Another newbie type question: When thinking about how computers > represent time, TAI would probably be the more logical way to store > and do calculations with time, only including leap seconds when > formatting time for human consumption. Or am I wrong in this? There

Re: [time-nuts] Is using TAI in Unix/Linux system clocks working in 2019?

2019-08-08 Thread Tim Dunker
Dear Ralph I keep all our GNU/Linux machines on UTC (i.e., <>). Our timezone is off by one or two hours, but the actual offset does not matter to me. What matters to me is to have all systems using the same timezone, and for our purposes, nobody cares about our local time. >> Can the same thing

[time-nuts] Is using TAI in Unix/Linux system clocks working in 2019?

2019-08-08 Thread Ralph Aichinger
Hi! Another newbie type question: When thinking about how computers represent time, TAI would probably be the more logical way to store and do calculations with time, only including leap seconds when formatting time for human consumption. Or am I wrong in this? There is a CLOCK_TAI on Linux, but

Re: [time-nuts] Serial or other simple protocols for exchanging time

2019-08-08 Thread Ralph Aichinger
[sorry for the messed up formatting in my previous email, I normally use my linux "mutt" mailer, but as I had subscription problems I am sending this over the yet unfamiliar to me Google web interface] Am Mi., 7. Aug. 2019 um 20:02 Uhr schrieb Tom Van Baak : > > Mimicking a NMEA ZDA sentence is

Re: [time-nuts] Serial or other simple protocols for exchanging time

2019-08-08 Thread Ralph Aichinger
Am Do., 8. Aug. 2019 um 05:09 Uhr schrieb Gary Chatters < gcarlis...@garychatters.com>: > I would expect that making your Arduino device look like a GPS receiver > outputting NMEA messages and a PPS signal would be about the simplest > approach you could take. It has the advantage that there is