Re: [time-nuts] 81, not quite a random number

2020-06-20 Thread Tom Van Baak
Bill, That is golden. You raised your kids well! See also the magic moment of 2006: https://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/2006-April/020455.html and the triple palindrome of 2002: http://leapsecond.com/pages/mjd52325/ /tvb On 6/20/2020 7:42 PM, William H. Fite wrote: When my son was

Re: [time-nuts] 81, not quite a random number

2020-06-20 Thread William H. Fite
When my son was 10 years old, he suddenly came running down the stairs madly clanging an old dinner bell. "What in the world are you doing?" "Quick, dad, look at the clock" I looked. "Now think about the calendar." I thought. And thought. Then it dawned on me. The date and time was 12:34

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency division by 81

2020-06-20 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi *Any* divide approach followed by a flip flop clocked by the input clock will meet that same basic requirement. While it *sounds* like it would improve things, it very much depends on the details. What are you trying to do? What is the input frequency? What is the phase noise requirement?

Re: [time-nuts] 81, not quite a random number

2020-06-20 Thread Mark Goldberg
Similar sense of humor. See if the attachment comes through. Regards, Mark On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 10:48 AM Bob Fleming wrote: > > Divide by 81 has resulted in a great conversation but I could not help but > notice a potential attempt at humor. > 10Mhz divided by 81 is 123456.7901 which I

Re: [time-nuts] Stanford University online GPS course

2020-06-20 Thread Alexander Sack
On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 2:33 PM Peter Vince wrote: > I've just been told about an online undergraduate course on the GPS system > done by Stanford University. I don't remember reading about it on here, > and a quick check of the archives drew a blank. The course is completely > free, and on

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency division by 81

2020-06-20 Thread Gilles Clement
Hi Robert, You are right, its the lambda divider that was discussed. Need to better understand this approach 74HC40103 could also do the 81 Pi-divide easily, but I tend to prefer the PICDIV concept where the controller is clocked by the signal to divide (So limited or no noise is added).

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency division by 81

2020-06-20 Thread Robert LaJeunesse
Gilles, if I read the Calosso-Rubiola paper correctly a Pi divider is pretty much your standard square-wave producing digital divider, such as a 74163 (for even divides). There's odd-value (3,5,7) Pi dividers shown at https://www.theremin.us/Circuit_Library/symmetrical_digital_dividers.html.

[time-nuts] 81, not quite a random number

2020-06-20 Thread Bob Fleming
Divide by 81 has resulted in a great conversation but I could not help but notice a potential attempt at humor. 10Mhz divided by 81 is 123456.7901 which I find to be amusing. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency division by 81

2020-06-20 Thread ew via time-nuts
On the 15 MHz FE 405 we use an XOR and two Flip FlopsĀ  to divide by 3 with a symmetrical output. Four of these will give you symmetry and divide by 81 Bert Kehren In a message dated 6/19/2020 8:14:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, kb...@n1k.org writes: Hi The biggest issue is that there are so