[time-nuts] Re: GPSDO Control loop autotuning

2022-04-19 Thread Markus Kleinhenz via time-nuts
Erik, https://filterpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/kalman/KalmanFilter.html has the documentation for a python implementation of kalman filters and some good introduction. Markus. Am 19.04.2022 um 21:03 schrieb Erik Kaashoek: > Tobias, > Your Kalman post triggered me to study this "dummy" level in

[time-nuts] Re: 100 MHz Low Phase Noise Mobile GPSDO/GNSSDO?

2022-04-19 Thread Markus Kleinhenz via time-nuts
Hi Carsten, Jim, Am 19.04.2022 um 18:51 schrieb Carsten Andrich: > Hi Markus, Jim, > > thank you for your responses! > > On 19.04.22 11:53, Markus Kleinhenz via time-nuts wrote: >> I believe you will have a hard time finding a COTS solution that fits >> most of your requirements. >> >> You will li

[time-nuts] Re: Symmetricom/Datum FTS-1050A Disciplined Frequency Standard

2022-04-19 Thread Michael Garvey via time-nuts
>>It was model FTS-1050A Disciplined Frequency Standard. The FTS-1050A was the second product of Frequency and Time Systems Inc (FTS) and appeared in the market around 1980. The instrument architecture was the product of Martin Levine (of Levine and Vessot Gravity Probe A) as implemented by Jerry

[time-nuts] Re: GPSDO Control loop autotuning

2022-04-19 Thread Erik Kaashoek
Tobias, Your Kalman post triggered me to study this "dummy" level introduction to Kalman filters: https://www.kalmanfilter.net/ and now I'm trying to write the Kalman filter. An example of a Kalman filter described in the link above uses distance, speed and acceleration as predictors for a one

[time-nuts] Re: Symmetricom/Datum FTS-1050A Disciplined Frequency Standard

2022-04-19 Thread ed breya
That's an interesting old machine - very cool. One thing though, is that unless I'm missing something, I believe the two available loop time constants are in minutes, not seconds, or that it should be in many more (maybe 100X) seconds, if stated that way. Since the unit can synchronize to a 1

[time-nuts] Re: Symmetricom/Datum FTS-1050A Disciplined Frequency Standard

2022-04-19 Thread Tom Van Baak
Joe, Yes, going back many years on time-nuts, two desirable military grade vintage portable quartz frequency standards were AN/URQ-10 and AN/URQ-23. The latter contained a FE-1050A oscillator which could be disciplined by an external reference. The manual goes into great detail. [1] See espec

[time-nuts] Re: 100 MHz Low Phase Noise Mobile GPSDO/GNSSDO?

2022-04-19 Thread Carsten Andrich
Hi Markus, Jim, thank you for your responses! On 19.04.22 11:53, Markus Kleinhenz via time-nuts wrote: I believe you will have a hard time finding a COTS solution that fits most of your requirements. You will likely have to split your signal chain into multiple devices: 1. UBlox ZED-F9T based

[time-nuts] Symmetricom/Datum FTS-1050A Disciplined Frequency Standard (long time constant loops)

2022-04-19 Thread cdelect
Speaking of long time constant analog loops for oscillator disciplining, see the attached PIX of the loop filter module from an FE AN/URQ-23. Also a PIX of the schematic. It is switch selectable for 1 or 100 Second time constants. I is also hermetically sealed to prevent leakage effects as it u

[time-nuts] Re: 100 MHz Low Phase Noise Mobile GPSDO/GNSSDO?

2022-04-19 Thread Lux, Jim
On 4/19/22 2:53 AM, Markus Kleinhenz via time-nuts wrote: Hello Carsten, thats quite the set of requirements you got there. I believe you will have a hard time finding a COTS solution that fits most of your requirements. You will likely have to split your signal chain into multiple devices: 1

[time-nuts] Re: 100 MHz Low Phase Noise Mobile GPSDO/GNSSDO?

2022-04-19 Thread Markus Kleinhenz via time-nuts
Hello Carsten, thats quite the set of requirements you got there. I believe you will have a hard time finding a COTS solution that fits most of your requirements. You will likely have to split your signal chain into multiple devices: 1. UBlox ZED-F9T based GPS-Receiver with 1PPS out 2. Somethin