[time-nuts] Re: Raspberry Pi with TimeHat thinks it's 2002!

2021-12-31 Thread Bill Notfaded
Newer version works great. Just reflash. It'd be nice if it was as easy as apt get update or yum update but flashing new image works. Bill On Fri, Dec 31, 2021, 6:17 PM John Miller via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Hi Robert! > You almost certainly are still running the

[time-nuts] Re: Frequency Standard - Where Can I Get One.

2021-11-22 Thread Bill Notfaded
There's no substitute for a few good rubidiums. OCXO and Rb are different. It's really hard to beat a really good GNSS diciplined Rb! Extremely good holdover. We're timenuts after all right? Where's the fun if you don't try them all? There isn't any silver bullet or perfect solution but I've

[time-nuts] Re: Passive Maser teardown

2021-10-21 Thread Bill Notfaded
So many layers in there Corby! It's amazing how these things are built! Really cool series to read about. Thanks for the update! I really hope you get this thing going. Best Regards, Bill On Wed, Oct 20, 2021, 11:15 AM wrote: > > Subject: Passive Maser teardown > > Just added "update 5" to

[time-nuts] Re: Query about List and about 10 MHz Distro

2021-08-28 Thread Bill Notfaded
White rabbit seems pretty good for time synced over fiber. PTP with enhanced stability profile. It's a IEEE standard. It seems to work for CERN. Lately I've been looking at Cisco devices that can support it. It whould be nice if I could find hardware that'll support it more easily... Maybe

[time-nuts] Re: 2nd Run of TimeHats

2021-05-01 Thread Bill Notfaded
I'd be interested in 2 too. Bill On Wed, Apr 28, 2021, 4:10 AM Michael Gindonis wrote: > I would be interested in at least one, perhaps even 2. and perhaps bare > boards. > > Some things that if not already considered, could make it more interesting > than it already is: > > - possibility to

Re: [time-nuts] Used Hydrogen Maser

2021-02-06 Thread Bill Notfaded
Let me know when I can buy one please! I'm not kidding. ;^} Bill in Arizona On Sat, Feb 6, 2021, 1:25 PM Tom Van Baak wrote: > > ptti/1981papers/Vol%2013_30.pdf > > Note the dialog on the last page. Dave Wineland went on to win the 2012 > Nobel prize in Physics: > > >

Re: [time-nuts] Leakage, tinySA

2021-01-18 Thread Bill Notfaded
Knock offs is part of the reason I posted the main US distributer earlier. The software is basically open source so anyone could theoretically make one. There's only one original manufacturer though. R Electronics is the only sanctioned US distributer I'm aware of. Also they have the best price

Re: [time-nuts] Happy 20th Year

2021-01-01 Thread Bill Notfaded
I concur! Thanks Tom. You guys have really helped me a lot along with all the archives and everyone on TN! Here's to an even better 2021. Maybe more better gear will show up on used market this year! I look forward to all the posts here! It seems a special kind of people appreciates time for

Re: [time-nuts] Rebroadcasting time signals [WAS: La Crosse Clocks - ]

2020-12-28 Thread Bill Notfaded
@dana I bought one of the TinySA from the usa distributer. It even comes with an sma antenna that screws right on. I'm actually pretty amazed with how this little thing works! You can see the radio stations around easily along with other things if they're leaking. Really amazing little piece

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 8T

2020-12-24 Thread Bill Notfaded
I ordered some too for reduced offer price. BTW the seller is a she not a he in case you're interested. QUEEN*S_LAND is definitely a girl. I've seen her picture before. I'm interested in what you all come up with using these. I've bought a lot of stuff from her and she ships quickly. Bill

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 8T

2020-12-08 Thread Bill Notfaded
That's a really old board though. An 8 series isn't pin compatible with say LEA-6T is it? The picture had a 5 series in it. Could you use something like this? https://github.com/PaulZC/NEO-M8T_GNSS_FeatherWing/blob/master/LEARN.md Bill On Tue, Dec 8, 2020, 10:30 AM Gregory Beat via time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Manual: VARIAN R-20 Rubidium frequency standard.

2020-12-06 Thread Bill Notfaded
The scans look good on the website. Thanks for the lead Tom. I still like collecting the original manuals for devices I have. You're right sometimes harder to find than the gear is! Bill On Sun, Dec 6, 2020, 6:10 AM Tom Van Baak wrote: > Nice find. Original manuals are sometimes harder to

Re: [time-nuts] Manual: VARIAN R-20 Rubidium frequency standard.

2020-12-06 Thread Bill Notfaded
Ulf- I have the R-20 unit and no manual. I'd be very interested in it or scans of it please! Best Regards, Bill On Sun, Dec 6, 2020, 5:59 AM Ulf Kylenfall via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > Gentlemen. > I have salvaged a manual for a Varian R-20 Rubidium Frequency Standard.

[time-nuts] Symmetricom 1050A

2020-11-08 Thread Bill Notfaded
Does anyone have any manuals for the later model version of these? I don't think they've changed too much since FTS and Datum but I acquired 3 of the symmetricom units with disciplining option without any manuals. I'll take some pictures of the inside. I'm bringing them over to my lab today.

Re: [time-nuts] Efratom M100 Found on Ramco auction site.

2020-11-02 Thread Bill Notfaded
Good afternoon Dave- I've got a couple of these and the non military version FRK-L. They're good units with big Rb cells in them. They last a long time. Also you can actually work on them. Surface mount components inside. It's worth more than 5 pounds that's for sure. From what I've read

Re: [time-nuts] phase noise webinar from IEEE MTT-S

2020-10-13 Thread Bill Notfaded
I attended too. This guy is so theoretical it was kinda hard to put into practical terms but I will say after reading some of his book he does understand some novel ways to calculate what's needed for reaching lower noise levels. Bill On Tue, Oct 13, 2020, 1:51 PM Attila Kinali wrote: > On

Re: [time-nuts] Spectracom 8161 "Standard Frequency Receiver - Oscillator" for WWVB (and question...)

2020-10-04 Thread Bill Notfaded
Is this why so many really high end devices are basically dumped on eBay now? I wondered why SRS device was so cheap now considering price of the SR620. It's too bad they don't work anymore. I'm sure when this happened it was a HUGE let down to many here that were using them? What's the best

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Distribution amp selection?

2020-09-28 Thread Bill Notfaded
Good morning Kevin- I use the same HP/Symmetricom units. Another newer brand, which carries GNSS frequencies, is from GPS Source: https://www.gpssource.com/collections/gps-splitter I have even seen some for sale on eBay for better prices used and bought some myself. Full disclosure I work for

Re: [time-nuts] Oscilloquartz BVA has been sold. Thank you all who expressed an interest.

2020-09-27 Thread Bill Notfaded
Where I work on a smaller isolated network we have an APC that takes up one full rack. Most of the rack is modular batteries that are 6 batteries in 19" x 4U high... A bunch of rows of these in one rack with a few units that are the control and monitoring system. That one rack can support 6 rows

Re: [time-nuts] What do people use for measuring temperature?

2020-09-25 Thread Bill Notfaded
>From I know from measuring voltage references getting linearity in those kinds of temp ranges not only requires really good sensors but often it needs to be thermally bonded to what's being measured and often with some block of material that's makes swings in temperature much more subtle. Even a

Re: [time-nuts] Oscilloquartz BVA has been sold. Thank you all who expressed an interest.

2020-09-25 Thread Bill Notfaded
Good evening TGIF! You've all given me some great ideas. I'm a computer scientist so tell me what's wrong with this? Can't I just use a high quality APC backup power system like we use to power racks of gear in our Telco and compute closets? A good one runs the full AC load the rack runs on.

Re: [time-nuts] Oscilloquartz BVA has been sold. Thank you all who expressed an interest.

2020-09-25 Thread Bill Notfaded
I plan to keep BVA powered. My question was how do you accomplish this and what do you do it with? I've been using PS like for example Fluke PM2811, Tekpower TP3005T, Dr. Meter HY3005F-3 (these are similar), Sorensen and some older HP. I've had good luck them all so far. I'm curious if

Re: [time-nuts] Oscilloquartz BVA has been sold. Thank you all who expressed an interest.

2020-09-24 Thread Bill Notfaded
What power supply do you recommend for the BVA. I'm kinda partial to high quality linear power supplies. I'm not so concerned about the size or the efficiency. I'm more concerned with clean power that's stable like the oscillators I'm trying to power. I'd be interested in what others think? I

Re: [time-nuts] Oscilloquartz BVA has been sold. Thank you all who expressed an interest.

2020-09-23 Thread Bill Notfaded
Thanks Tom- I really appreciate your comment. I've studied your website closely on this topic. I'm really in awe of the 860x models some of you have access to 8607, 8608 models some with options! I'd probably be considered a newer school timenut/voltnut but... I even collect Nixie tube

Re: [time-nuts] eLORAN will be on the air GRI 99600

2020-08-06 Thread Bill Notfaded
Isn't there also CDMA? We used a EndRun Technologies system not long ago that used a small short antenna that could be located inside and didn't need a cable to the roof for a GPS antenna. This was handy for rooms that couldn't have anything penetrate the walls at all. It was a good reference

Re: [time-nuts] Raspberry Pi NTP server

2020-07-09 Thread Bill Notfaded
USB 1.0/Low-Speed: 1.5 Mbps USB 1.1/Full-Speed: 12 Mbps. USB 2.0/Hi-Speed: 480 Mbps. USB 3.0/SuperSpeed: 5 Gbps. USB 3.1/SuperSpeed: 10 Gbps. This is the actual bitrate for these serial interfaces. Bill On Wed, Jul 8, 2020, 5:16 PM jimlux wrote: > On 7/8/20 4:40 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > > > >

[time-nuts] 5071A

2020-07-05 Thread Bill Notfaded
If the power is cycled on one of these will it always go into attention mode yellow until cleared? Or will it go green continuous operation all in it's own? If one of these has been on the shelf a while is it common for one even with a good tube to report attention yellow for a while until tube

[time-nuts] Turn Dynamic Systems FSA3011A timelab setup

2020-06-13 Thread Bill Notfaded
Does anyone have any good docs or configuration experience with setting up timelab for FSA3011A? I'm curious what the best settings to start with are? I'm used to using SRS SR620, Pendulum, and HP 5313xA counters so far with timelab. The DTMD are new to me. I've got a bunch of Rb, OCXO, and

Re: [time-nuts] Teensy 4.1

2020-05-14 Thread Bill Notfaded
It's pretty legit and can run like any other Arduino does. With 100Mbit physical Ethernet built in that's pretty big for a tiny board. It supports the precision time protocol (PTP). Also known as IEEE 1588, this protocol allows for synchronizing connected devices with sub-microsecond precision.

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO Support Board

2020-05-13 Thread Bill Notfaded
I've been trying to find a base PCB design to use too. In the interim I bought some boards from Gerry Sweeney that sells them for HP5313x frequency counter OCXO upgrades and supports different footprints. Open source design is even better. OSHpark is great. Please post it! Bill E. On Tue,

[time-nuts] DATUM ExacTime 6010 info anyone?

2020-05-07 Thread Bill Notfaded
I bought a DATUM ExacTime 6010 today that looks to have fully loaded option board on it. It'll be interesting to see what built in LO it has. It looks to have GPIB. I know some of these have firmware issues that were updated by symmetricom for leap second issues which required replacing an

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO advice on BG7TBL DO

2020-05-03 Thread Bill Notfaded
Wes- A great resource for info is the BG7TBL master thread at eevblog. We track everything we know about these units to compare them: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/testgear/bg7tbl-gpsdo-master-reference/ Bill On Sun, May 3, 2020, 6:14 AM Wes wrote: > The seller and the PO did a yeoman job

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO advice

2020-05-01 Thread Bill Notfaded
Did you get a newer one with late 2019 at least on the front BG7TBL panel? The one I got doesn't have the frequency offset bug and works really well. It locks on multiple birds really quickly. For the money it's hard to beat. I've been comparing it to my Thunderbolt E. It obviously doesn't

Re: [time-nuts] Interesting 1-60 MHz =/- 50 ppb Stratum-3 TCXO chip

2020-05-01 Thread Bill Notfaded
Looking at the datasheet it doesn't look like you'd win any ADEV competitions with it but it's small and the DCTXCO version would be nice to use the I2C interface and it says frequency control resolution as low as 5 ppt. It has uses I can see. Bill On Fri, May 1, 2020, 5:50 PM Richard Solomon

Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-26 Thread Bill Notfaded
is new almost. Bill On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 6:07 PM Bryan _ wrote: > They make quite a few models which one are you recommending? > > -=Bryan=- > > > From: time-nuts on behalf of Bill > Notfaded > Sent: April 25, 2020 5:38 PM > To:

Re: [time-nuts] Vaperware Parts and pulse stretching circuits

2020-04-25 Thread Bill Notfaded
I totally agree with the Metcal soldering station!!! I'll never go back to anything else. I don't even use a scope. I bought some magnifying glasses with 5 sets of different power lenses you wear like glasses. It has built in led light and adjustable strap that hold it on your head off Amazon.