Re: [time-nuts] Yesterday was the first palindromic date for 909 years

2020-02-05 Thread Bill Slade
At the time, the year would have been written as MCXI, so no palindrome would have been possible!  Bill From: time-nuts on behalf of Bill Metzenthen Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2020 1:17 AM To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts]

Re: [time-nuts] Cesium Mechanical Chronometer

2020-01-30 Thread Bill Slade
Just a thought, as I have no experience with mechanical clocks. Couple your atomic clock 1pps signal to a mechanism that weakly mechanically couples to your chronometer spring-mass-escapement system in some way (assuming 1 tick per second natural frequency for your chronometer). Rely on the

Re: [time-nuts] Difference in antennas

2019-11-22 Thread Bill Slade
The "N" indeed points north.  This is because these large reference-station choke-ring antennas are often calibrated for phase center with respect to north.  Did you get the phase center calibration data with your antenna? Pointing the "N" towards north will not have much effect on timing

Re: [time-nuts] Jan-Derk's DDMTD

2019-09-01 Thread Bill Slade
Hello, This is a topic that interest me greatly as well. Some of the work we have done uses a digital frequency tracking loop to generate frequency errors directly from sampled data using a sampling system and ethernet system of our own design. We opted for using a look-up table-based DDS in

Re: [time-nuts] TCXO improvement

2019-08-02 Thread Bill Slade
Hello! I have done this and can attest that it works well. I did not use a TCXO, though. I used a 48 MHz, third-overtone AT-cut crystal in a Colpitts oscillator configuration. The vacuum flask was ovenized to maintain temperature near the stationary point of the temp characteristic (near 50

Re: [time-nuts] Smaller, and smaller antennas

2019-03-06 Thread Bill Slade
My calculation was a bit hasty. Q_rad is around 123, not 7e6 (misplaced factor of 2pi). Still pretty bad, tho'. So, we have 1/24 -1/123=1/Qloss or Qloss = 25; typical of what you'd find in a lumped LC circuit. Cheers From: time-nuts on behalf of Bill Slade

Re: [time-nuts] AD9912 DDS frequency resolution measurement?

2019-02-18 Thread Bill Slade
Hi, Are you losing the least significant digit in your frequency measurement? A double precision word has 52 bits of significance+sign, roughly corresponding to 15 decimal places. Adding 3uHz to 1Ghz (or hundreds of MHz) is just about on the limit of generating significance errors due to

Re: [time-nuts] Rooftop antenna and splitter

2019-01-27 Thread Bill Slade
Hi again, The very best GNSS antennas tend to be based on suspended patch antenna (air-dielectric) structures because they give the best bandwidth/radiation efficiency (and hence, noise temperature) performance.  The very best include choke-rings for multipath suppression (Dorne-Margolin &

Re: [time-nuts] Rooftop antenna and splitter

2019-01-27 Thread Bill Slade
Hello Denny, Things to keep in mind: 1. To keep noise performance, LNA gain at the antenna should be at least 10 dB above total losses in antenna cable & distribution network. 13-16 dB above is better. Something like this would be more than suitable for a 30 ft run: