[time-nuts] Re: Effect of temperature on cheap puck style GNSS antennas?

2022-05-13 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Fri, 13 May 2022 03:30:35 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: time-nuts Digest, Vol 217, Issue 25 > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 07:01:11 -0600 > From: Bob kb8tq > Subject: [time-nuts] Re: Effect of temperature on cheap puck style > GNSS antennas? > To: Discussion

[time-nuts] Re: +1/f of transistors (Handel's Quantum 1/f theory)

2022-05-08 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Mon, 11 Apr 2022 18:05:15 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: time-nuts Digest, Vol 216, Issue 19 > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2022 06:31:27 -0700 > From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" > Subject: [time-nuts] Re: +1/f of transistors > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency

[time-nuts] Underlying math of cross-correlation PN Test Sets

2022-04-24 Thread Joseph Gwinn
I'm digging into the basic math of how cross-correlation phase noise test sets (like the 53100A) work, so I'm looking for good articles on the complex-exponentials math. One item of interest is the effects of imperfections in the power dividers that make a pair of perfect copies of the

[time-nuts] Symmetricom/Datum FTS-1050A Disciplined Frequency Standard

2022-04-18 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Wed, 06 Apr 2022 03:30:35 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: time-nuts Digest, Vol 216, Issue 10 >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2022 09:53:18 -0400 >>> From: Bob kb8tq >>> Subject: [time-nuts] Re: Low Phase Noise 10 MHz bench signal source >>> sought >>> To: ew ,

[time-nuts] Re: +1/f of transistors

2022-04-11 Thread Joseph Gwinn
f transistors To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com On 07.04.22 22:58, Joseph Gwinn wrote: >>>> What those folk are currently using for capacitance multipliers and the like (where low 1/f noise is also essential) are SiGe transistors like the following: BFP640H (Infineon), BFP780, SAV541 (M

[time-nuts] Re: Low Phase Noise 10 MHz bench signal source

2022-04-09 Thread Joseph Gwinn
ht > To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com > Message-ID: <624f7ac9.6040...@telight.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 4/7/22 3:09 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote: > > > > This BTULN OCXO looks very good. While they do mention that it > > conta

[time-nuts] Re: Low Phase Noise 10 MHz bench signal source sought

2022-04-07 Thread Joseph Gwinn
t; Subject: [time-nuts] Re: Low Phase Noise 10 MHz bench signal source > sought > To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > On 4/1/22 2:12 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote: >> I'm looking for suggestions for AC-powered

[time-nuts] Re: +1/f of transistors

2022-04-07 Thread Joseph Gwinn
of precise time and frequency measurement > > Cc: Joseph Gwinn > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; > boundary="=_d7d66c5dc46758f967fd363190701e4d" > > Am 2022-04-07 1:37, schrieb Joseph Gwinn: > >>> Lately, I've been seeing papers

[time-nuts] Re: +1/f of transistors

2022-04-06 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Sun, 03 Apr 2022 03:30:27 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: time-nuts Digest, Vol 216, Issue 4 > -- > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2022 07:36:27 -0700 > From: "Lux, Jim" > Subject: [time-nuts] Re: +1/f of transistors > To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com

[time-nuts] Re: Low Phase Noise 10 MHz bench signal source sought

2022-04-05 Thread Joseph Gwinn
time-nuts Digest, Vol 216, Issue 5 Multiple responses interspersed below. > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2022 10:13:44 +0200 > From: "Bernd Neubig" > Subject: [time-nuts] Re: Low Phase Noise 10 MHz bench signal source

[time-nuts] Re: Low Phase Noise 10 MHz bench signal source sought

2022-04-02 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Sat, 02 Apr 2022 03:27:06 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: time-nuts Digest, Vol 216, Issue 3 > 11. Re: Low Phase Noise70 10 MHz bench signal source sought > (Richard (Rick) Karlquist) > > Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 19:12:07 -0700 > From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" >

[time-nuts] Low Phase Noise 10 MHz bench signal source sought

2022-04-01 Thread Joseph Gwinn
I'm looking for suggestions for AC-powered 10 MHz sinewave laboratory signal sources with very low phase noise, having a noise floor below -170 dBc/Hz. Rubidium is desired, but not essential. Reliability and durability in lab use is essential. Which makes and models should I consider

[time-nuts] Re: Coupling between oscillators -- an example

2022-03-27 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 03:30:23 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: time-nuts Digest, Vol 215, Issue 35 >3. Re: Coupling between oscillators -- an example > (Richard (Rick) Karlquist) > Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2022 15:37:17 -0700 > From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" > Subject:

[time-nuts] Re: Coupling between oscillators -- an example

2022-03-26 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 16:48:08 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: time-nuts Digest, Vol 215, Issue 33 > >7. Coupling between oscillators -- an example (John Ackermann N8UR) > > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 15:41:46 -0400 > From: John Ackermann N8UR > Subject: [time-nuts] Coupling

[time-nuts] Re: Types of noise (was: Phase Station 53100A Questions)

2022-02-24 Thread Joseph Gwinn
> To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com > Message-ID: <09a63798-c870-88a0-2894-9d7cd67cf...@rubidium.se> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Hi Joe, > > On 2022-02-21 20:52, Joseph Gwinn wrote: >> time-nuts Digest, Vol 214, Issue 22 >&

[time-nuts] Re: Types of noise (was: Phase Station 53100A Questions)

2022-02-21 Thread Joseph Gwinn
stions) > To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com > Message-ID: <9b7416ef-1ead-72eb-1010-0bf355c80...@rubidium.se> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Hi, > > On 2022-02-20 00:08, Joseph Gwinn wrote: >> >>> Message: 14 >>> Date: Sa

[time-nuts] Re: Types of noise (was: Phase Station 53100A Questions)

2022-02-19 Thread Joseph Gwinn
> > Message-ID: <20220218224222.d23061788e7bdf5b6c60f...@kinali.ch> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Tue, 15 Feb 2022 17:07:54 -0500 > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > >>> That's an interesting noise model. And one that is oddly specific. >>&g

[time-nuts] Re: Types of noise (was: Phase Station 53100A Questions)

2022-02-15 Thread Joseph Gwinn
of precise time and frequency measurement > > Message-ID: <20220214221010.7d39f07da972b13bc6900...@kinali.ch> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Sun, 13 Feb 2022 17:31:11 -0500 > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > >> A better word than multiplicative is p

[time-nuts] Re: Types of noise (was: Phase Station 53100A Questions)

2022-02-13 Thread Joseph Gwinn
sion of precise time and frequency measurement > > Message-ID: <20220212203848.72783256d221001199dfd...@kinali.ch> > > On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 18:25:05 -0500 > Joseph Gwinn wrote: > >> May not realize that thermal noise (additive) and phase >> noise (

[time-nuts] Re: Phase Station 53100A Questions

2022-02-11 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Fri, 11 Feb 2022 03:30:36 -0500, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: time-nuts Digest, Vol 214, Issue 12 > Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 17:28:20 -0500 > From: Bob kb8tq > Subject: [time-nuts] Re: Phase Station 53100A Questions > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement >

[time-nuts] Re: Phase Station 53100A Questions

2022-02-10 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Thu, 10 Feb 2022 03:30:33 -0500, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: > time-nuts Digest, Vol 214, Issue 11 > > Message: 13 > Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 15:18:36 -0800 > From: "John Miles" > Subject: [time-nuts] Re: Phase Station

[time-nuts] Phase Station 53100A Questions

2022-02-09 Thread Joseph Gwinn
I will be doing some residual phase noise tests in a month or so using a 53100A Phase Noise Analyzer (not yet in hand), so I've been studying the users manual and datasheet of the Microchip 52100A Phase Noise Analyzer. I do know the history, starting with Sam Stein developing the Timing

[time-nuts] Re: HP Z3801A info needed - 1PPS interface

2021-10-10 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Sun, 10 Oct 2021 03:30:24 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: time-nuts Digest, Vol 210, Issue 7 > Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2021 15:18:08 -0700 > From: ed breya > Subject: [time-nuts] Re: HP Z3801A info needed - 1PPS interface > To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com > Message-ID:

[time-nuts] Re: in-ground clock room

2021-09-13 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Mon, 13 Sep 2021 03:30:35 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 209, Issue 11 [snip] > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2021 09:58:32 -0400 > From: Bob kb8tq > Subject: [time-nuts] Re: in-ground clock room > To: Discussion

[time-nuts] Re: in-ground clock room

2021-09-09 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Thu, 09 Sep 2021 03:30:35 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 209, Issue 6 > -- > > Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 18:54:03 -0700 > From: Tom Van Baak > Subject: [time-nuts] in-ground clock room > To: Discussion of precise time and

[time-nuts] Affordable 160 GHz Sampler

2021-09-02 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Thu, 02 Sep 2021 03:30:18 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: > Send time-nuts mailing list submissions to > time-nuts@lists.febo.com Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 209, Issue 1 > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date:

[time-nuts] Re: Query about List and about 10 MHz Distro

2021-08-29 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 13:56:42 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 208, Issue 24 (messages 2, 4, and 15) > --2 Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2021 09:51:39 -0400 From: Bob kb8tq Subject: [time-nuts] Re: Query about List and about 10 MHz

[time-nuts] Re: Query about List and about 10 MHz Distro

2021-08-29 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 03:30:23 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 208, Issue 23 (message 3) > Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2021 18:57:08 -0500 > From: Dana Whitlow > Subject: [time-nuts] Re: Query about List and about 10 MHz Distro > To: Discussion of precise time and

[time-nuts] Re: of possible interest (modulation of IRIG onto 10 MHz reference)

2021-08-29 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 03:30:23 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 208, Issue 23 (Msg 10) > Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2021 14:33:24 +1000 > From: Julien Goodwin > Subject: [time-nuts] Re: of possible interest > To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > On 21/3/20 6:07 am,

[time-nuts] Re: uncertainty/SNR of IQ measurements

2021-08-27 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 03:30:28 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: > Send time-nuts mailing list submissions to > time-nuts@lists.febo.com time-nuts Digest, Vol 208, Issue 20 > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 26

[time-nuts] Schatz Ships clock

2021-05-18 Thread Joseph Gwinn
A friend of mine has an old round brass Schatz Ships clock (looks like a Royal Mariner clock, but is not) with a radio-clock quartz mechanism. This clock is quite dead, but one would think it can be repaired. When I google on this clock, I don't find repair details and schematics, I see only

Re: [time-nuts] Examples of traditional phase noise analyzers

2020-12-17 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Thu, 17 Dec 2020 12:00:01 -0500, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 197, Issue 21 > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 12:02:40 +0100 > From: Attila Kinali > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement >

Re: [time-nuts] What do people use for measuring temperature?

2020-09-26 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 22:46:32 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 194, Issue 40 > -- > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2020 04:50:35 -0700 > From: Hal Murray > To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com > Cc: Hal Murray > Subject:

Re: [time-nuts] "Shaking" of magnetic shields in atomic clocks

2020-09-02 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Wed, 02 Sep 2020 17:49:47 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: > Send time-nuts mailing list submissions to > time-nuts@lists.febo.com > Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 194, Issue 4 > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2020 14:31:04 -0700 > From: "Richard (Rick) Karlquist" > To:

Re: [time-nuts] A simple sampling DMTD

2020-06-05 Thread Joseph Gwinn
o: Yes, having this available as a solution accessible to amateurs > has always been one of my goals) > > Sincerely, > > JDB. > [I've been working on other mildly time-nutty things that *can* be soldered > at home lately; hope to have a post in a week or two] > [snip]

Re: [time-nuts] A simple sampling DMTD

2020-05-29 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Sun, 01 Dec 2019 01:01:34 -0500, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 185, Issue 1 - > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2019 12:23:07 -0500 > From: Joseph Gwinn > To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com > Subject: Re: [t

Re: [time-nuts] potential low-RFI power supply

2020-05-18 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Mon, 18 May 2020 12:00:02 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 190, Issue 30 > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 12:53:42 -0600 > From: Eric Scace > To: Time Nuts email list > Subject: [time-nuts] potential low-RFI power supply > Message-ID: >

Re: [time-nuts] an interesting timing problem

2020-05-06 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Wed, 06 May 2020 12:00:02 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 190, Issue 10 > > -- > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 07:00:51 -0700 > From: jimlux > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > >

Re: [time-nuts] OCXO and fluctuations after EFC adjustment

2020-04-11 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 00:24:45 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 189, Issue 18 > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 13:23:22 -0400 > From: Bob kb8tq > To: Taka Kamiya , Discussion of precise time and > frequency measurement > Subject: Re:

Re: [time-nuts] PRS-10 PPS output

2020-04-05 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Sun, 05 Apr 2020 12:00:02 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 189, Issue 9 [snip] > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2020 14:08:02 -0400 > From: Bob kb8tq > To: Discussion of precise

Re: [time-nuts] PRS-10 PPS output

2020-04-04 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Fri, 03 Apr 2020 20:00:59 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 189, Issue 7 - > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 15:48:50 -0400 > From: Bob kb8tq > To: Discussion of precise time and

Re: [time-nuts] PLL suggestions

2019-12-31 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 12:00:02 -0500, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 185, Issue 39 > -- > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2019 11:01:10 -0500 > From: Dan Kemppainen > To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com > Subject: [time-nuts] PLL

Re: [time-nuts] A simple sampling DMTD

2019-11-30 Thread Joseph Gwinn
Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 184, Issue 40 On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 20:37:02 -0500, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: [snip] > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 20:37:16 +0100 > From: Gerhard Hoffmann > To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] A simple sampling DMTD > Message-ID:

Re: [time-nuts] A simple sampling DMTD

2019-11-28 Thread Joseph Gwinn
6:32 +0100 > From: Jan-Derk Bakker > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] A simple sampling DMTD > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Dear Joe, > > On Wed, Nov 27,

Re: [time-nuts] A simple sampling DMTD

2019-11-27 Thread Joseph Gwinn
Re: time-nuts Digest, Vol 184, Issue 35 On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:00:02 -0500, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: > > Message: 8 > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 00:29:19 +0100 > From: Jan-Derk Bakker > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement >

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antennas

2019-10-15 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 19:01:37 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 16:58:42 +0200 > From: Attila Kinali > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antennas >

Re: [time-nuts] More ES100 WWVB Measurements

2018-12-31 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Mon, 31 Dec 2018 12:00:02 -0500, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.com wrote: > time-nuts Digest, Vol 173, Issue 44 > Message: 7 > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 04:04:22 -0800 > From: "Tom Van Baak" > To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" > > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] More