[time-nuts] Frequency Standard - Where Can I Get One.

2021-11-20 Thread Robert Garnett
Hi, About five years ago I purchased a rubidium standard on eBay. It was an Efratom.  Sadly although  The oscillator was working but it wouldn't lock.  I was comparing it to a HP Z38001A which I use as the frequency standard in my lab. I tried to fix it, but I couldn't find the correct

[time-nuts] Frequency Standard in personal lab

2019-06-06 Thread cdelect
Taka, I'm assuming you meant an HP 53132A? Anyway to make meaningful measurements you need a DMTD setup or some other resolution expanding scheme. An HP 5065A would be your best bet to add to your stable! Between a good cherry picked Quartz and the 5065A you could cover most bases easily!

[time-nuts] Frequency Standard in personal lab

2019-06-05 Thread Taka Kamiya via time-nuts
In my personal lab, I have many oscillators that I consider "standards".  They have varying long term and short term stability.  I have: 1:  HP11811-6011 double oven 2:  Nortel GPSTM GPSDO  (I have two) 3:  Efratom PRFS1024:  Efratom PRFS2025:  PRS-10 disciplined by Trimble Resolution-T GPS 5: 

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency standard

2019-01-26 Thread Bob Albert via time-nuts
Well Ian there are lots of guys on nets using archaic equipment.  I go to some of their swap meets.  I have repaired, built, and salvaged many of those old items.  Of course back then the 1 kHz resolution of Collins gear was amazing.  I built a frequency meter a while back.  An interesting

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency standard

2019-01-26 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi So what’s the downside to all this: Keeping an OCXO (and counter) turned on 24 hours a day, 365 days a year burns power. If you also live in air conditioning land, you pay even more to get rid of the heat from the power. Sit down and do the math. You likely will find this is not as cheap

[time-nuts] Frequency standard

2019-01-26 Thread Mark Sims
Most of the UCCM devices don't store the position. They do a survey every time they power on. The Samsung devices also seem to do a survey after extended periods of holdover. Some of the Trimble (or is it Symmetricom) units will save the survey position in EEPROM. I recently did a

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency standard

2019-01-26 Thread jimlux
On 1/26/19 2:41 PM, Hal Murray wrote: jimlux said: ( a very narrow spectrum analysis from a whip antenna is fascinating..) If/when you get a chance, please post a picture. next time I hook it up, I will. ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency standard

2019-01-26 Thread Ian Stirling
On 1/26/19 4:31 PM, Bob Albert via time-nuts wrote: Well you are right that I am bit far from JPL.  I used to work there.  But I am impressed with the number of replies and the number of suggestions.  I am still mulling over what will work for me. Bob, Frequency counters are practically

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency standard

2019-01-26 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 1/26/2019 10:43 AM, Bob Albert via time-nuts wrote: My counter is an HP 5328A I belive.  Not the top of the line but with care it can do a decent job.  It's oscillator is the standard oven job.  When I got it, it was almost spot on but it's been There is no standard oven oscillator.

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2019-01-26 Thread Dan Rae
On 1/26/2019 1:31 PM, Bob Albert via time-nuts wrote:    I am, as I have said, money limited to the point where most solutions won't work for me. My counter is an HP 5328A I belive.  Not the top of the line but with care it can do a decent job.  It's oscillator is the standard oven job.  When

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency standard

2019-01-26 Thread jimlux
On 1/26/19 1:31 PM, Bob Albert via time-nuts wrote: Well you are right that I am bit far from JPL.  I used to work there.  But I am impressed with the number of replies and the number of suggestions.  I am still mulling over what will work for me.  Apparently this group is made up of

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency standard

2019-01-26 Thread Hal Murray
jimlux said: > ( a very narrow spectrum analysis from a whip antenna is fascinating..) If/when you get a chance, please post a picture. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe,

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency standard

2019-01-26 Thread Bob Albert via time-nuts
Well you are right that I am bit far from JPL.  I used to work there.  But I am impressed with the number of replies and the number of suggestions.  I am still mulling over what will work for me.  Apparently this group is made up of helpful and knowledgable guys who aren't afraid to share

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency standard

2019-01-26 Thread jimlux
On 1/26/19 10:43 AM, Bob Albert via time-nuts wrote: Dave, thanks for the info.  I am, as I have said, money limited to the point where most solutions won't work for me. My counter is an HP 5328A I belive.  Not the top of the line but with care it can do a decent job.  It's oscillator is the

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency standard

2019-01-26 Thread Bob Albert via time-nuts
cks away who has all you need. Cheers, Dave M - Original Message - From: "Bob Albert via time-nuts" To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Cc: "Bob Albert" Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 12:06:43 AM Subject: Re: [time-n

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency standard

2019-01-26 Thread Luca
has all you need. > > > Cheers, > Dave M > > - Original Message - > > From: "Bob Albert via time-nuts" > To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" < > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> > Cc: "Bob Albert" > Sent:

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency standard

2019-01-26 Thread DM
someone just a couple of blocks away who has all you need. Cheers, Dave M - Original Message - From: "Bob Albert via time-nuts" To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Cc: "Bob Albert" Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 12:06:43

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency standard

2019-01-26 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi What are the alternatives: 1) If you are doing it by ear and listening to WWVB beats and fading, something around 0.1 ppm (one hertz at 10 MHz) is doing pretty well. I suppose if you lived in Ft. Colins you could do better. 2) A typical OCXO in a counter will drift and age. Depending a

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency standard

2019-01-26 Thread jimlux
On 1/26/19 5:00 AM, John Ackermann. N8UR wrote: Hi Bob -- A GPSDO can replace the OCXO in your counter, and that's now most folks would use it. If you just want to calibrate the OCXO, you don't need a GPSDO -- you can do that with just a GPS that has a pulse-per-second output, and a scope.

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency standard

2019-01-26 Thread John Ackermann. N8UR
Hi Bob -- A GPSDO can replace the OCXO in your counter, and that's now most folks would use it. If you just want to calibrate the OCXO, you don't need a GPSDO -- you can do that with just a GPS that has a pulse-per-second output, and a scope. Use the GPS PPS to trigger the scope and adjust

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency standard

2019-01-26 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 1/25/2019 10:06 PM, Bob Albert via time-nuts wrote: accuracy of only about 1 part in 20 million.  I want it somewhat better, but no way do I need it 100 times better.  If I could set it within 0.1 Hz that would be fine - it would enable frequency You're kidding yourself on the 1 part in

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2019-01-26 Thread Bob Albert via time-nuts
Paul, thanks for your reply. You ask what I want to accomplish.  Basically I just want to be able to calibrate the OCXO in my counter.  I don't get a good enough signal from WWV and don't really have a proper method for adjustment. I listen to the highest froquency WWV I can hear, and these

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2019-01-25 Thread paul swed
Bob The gpsdos will be far superior to the method you are currently using. I will guess 100-1000 times better and higher. I took a quick look at EBAY boy there are lot of them these days. We all have our favorites. Trimbles, HPs... But what would help is understanding your need. What do you want