Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: Frequency Counter business decline, Modulation Domain Analyzers, geeks as models

2019-01-22 Thread paul swed
Have 4 HP5360s and even the keyboard and interconnecting cable. I did have to home brew a replacement Nixie assembly for one. (It was missing) I used orange/yellow 7 segment leds that matched the nixie filter very nicely. The same circuit produced an rs 2322 output. Way easier then the 1 MHz

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: Frequency Counter business decline, Modulation Domain Analyzers, geeks as models

2019-01-21 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Hugh, Enjoying your stories. On 2019-01-21 01:57, Rice, Hugh (IPH Writing Systems) wrote: Like all breakthrough measurements, the next 20+ years was spent refining the concept. Better "front end" amplifiers, able to measure low amplitude signals. Faster counters, that could capture

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: Frequency Counter business decline, Modulation Domain Analyzers, geeks as models

2019-01-21 Thread Neville Michie
Hi, I used an HP counter in 1961 that had these vertical strings of neon tubes behind numbers, and the two least significant decimals were read off two milliamp meters numbered 0 to 10. For each count the needles would point to the number to be read. The whole instrument was a 2 foot cube that

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: Frequency Counter business decline, Modulation Domain Analyzers, geeks as models

2019-01-21 Thread Bruce Griffiths
https://www.arl.wustl.edu/~jst/cse/260/glitchChaney.pdf suggests metastability was noticed in the 1940's but not taken seriously for decades thereafter. Bruce > On 21 January 2019 at 19:10 Hal Murray wrote: > > > > When did people designing counter/timers start paying attention to >

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: Frequency Counter business decline, Modulation Domain Analyzers, geeks as models

2019-01-20 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi: I think there were some versions prior to transistors.  For example: https://prc68.com/I/HPac4a.shtml A friend of the family worked at HP and gave these to me. -- Have Fun, Brooke Clarke https://www.PRC68.com http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html axioms: 1. The extent to which

Re: [time-nuts] HP Stories: Frequency Counter business decline, Modulation Domain Analyzers, geeks as models

2019-01-20 Thread Hal Murray
When did people designing counter/timers start paying attention to metastability? I learned about it in the late 70s or early 80s. In the mid 80s, I went to a trade show that had a panel on it, and one of the panelists actually claimed it wasn't a problem. -- These are my opinions. I