Re: [time-nuts] IFCS 2020 tutorial - low noise electronics for time/frequency metrology

2020-07-22 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The gotcha is that all X7R tells you is that the temperature dependence of the part falls inside a certain set of limits. Back many decades ago there were very few formulas out there to make this or that spec part. Pretty much everybody made a part type with the same material. Since the

Re: [time-nuts] IFCS 2020 tutorial - low noise electronics for time/frequency metrology

2020-07-22 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 2020-07-22 03:39, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: > > > On 7/21/2020 4:27 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: > >> >> In capacitors, two things make them microphonic, voltage over the >> capacitor and the high-dielectric constant as this makes it more >> sensitive to mechanical stress, and this also

Re: [time-nuts] IFCS 2020 tutorial - low noise electronics for time/frequency metrology

2020-07-21 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 7/21/2020 4:27 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: In capacitors, two things make them microphonic, voltage over the capacitor and the high-dielectric constant as this makes it more sensitive to mechanical stress, and this also tends to make them very sentistive to thermal stress. So X7R is

Re: [time-nuts] IFCS 2020 tutorial - low noise electronics for time/frequency metrology

2020-07-21 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Attila, On 2020-07-08 04:25, Attila Kinali wrote: > Moin, > > As some of you know, I have been allowed to give a tutorial on low noise > electronics > for this year's IFCS. As the whole conference has been turned into a virtual > one, > we were asked to record our tutorials and upload them.

Re: [time-nuts] IFCS 2020 tutorial - low noise electronics for time/frequency metrology

2020-07-08 Thread Peter McCollum
Very good! I learned a bunch of things! My suggestions for the earlier parts of the presentation: - The discussion at the end of the "Types of Noise" slide should be earlier, very near the beginning of the presentation. That is, start by giving Context for why metrology has special requirements

[time-nuts] IFCS 2020 tutorial - low noise electronics for time/frequency metrology

2020-07-07 Thread Attila Kinali
Moin, As some of you know, I have been allowed to give a tutorial on low noise electronics for this year's IFCS. As the whole conference has been turned into a virtual one, we were asked to record our tutorials and upload them. Additonally to the conference I decided to put my tutorial online