Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amplifier for 10MHz and 1 pps

2019-03-18 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi CMOS is what you want rather than TTL in this day and age. Propagation delay and jitter are both much better than any of the TTL families. NC7SZ125: Prop delay 2.6 ns Output high 50 ma max 32 ma rated Output low 50 ma max 32 ma rated (rated = ~0.5V off rail at 4.5V supply) 74S140 Prop

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency Ensemble

2019-03-18 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi There are a variety of GPS devices that put out a PPS. uBlox makes some, there are a number of other companies that do so. The PPS comes out modulo the local timebase. On a precision part, there is a “sawtooth correction” message that also comes out to further quantify the best guess time of

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency Ensemble

2019-03-18 Thread Rodger via time-nuts
Tom, Thanks for the explanation of clock ensembles. That answered a few questions I've had for a while. Regarding your comments on collecting raw time data from GPS and post processing it. Can you provide any reference info, links, etc. with more detail on that topic? Clearly I'd need a GPS

[time-nuts] FTS-4040/A - Looking for voltage on switching power supply

2019-03-18 Thread gandalfg8--- via time-nuts
I believe the FTS-4040 was originallly a Time and Frequency Solutions product and the manual for their FTS-4060 can be found here. www.to-way.com/tf/4060man.pdf That shows the pre-regulator DC power requirements as a nominal 26 V, with a range of 22 to 30 V. I'm not sure how relevant this

Re: [time-nuts] FTS-4040/A - Looking for voltage on switching power supply

2019-03-18 Thread Taka Kamiya via time-nuts
30V seems to be the answer.  I am going to attempt to repair the factory switcher.  I found one electrolytic gone and few other things suspect.  So I will know for sure.  Model number (custom) suggests 30V as well.  As to manuals, I can go as old as 4040B, but not A.  I do have an option of

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency Ensemble

2019-03-18 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi ….. and here I was wondering if it had ever gone out :) Glad it made it. No, I did not run any single frequency units beside it. It is much better than any similar plot I’ve done in the past on an L1 only part. Indeed, as long as you just look at the first ~ 100 seconds, the “reference

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency Ensemble

2019-03-18 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi You can access an “NTRIP stream” from various free sites. There is some mumbo jumbo on some of them to get an account. There are streams dedicated to “clock and orbit correction”. CLK11 and CLK93 are two fairly common ones. Since NTRIP is a real time product (as in < 30 seconds delay) it can

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency Ensemble

2019-03-18 Thread Anders Wallin
If you search for "GNSS time transfer" you will find a lot of papers etc. For example these might get you started: https://www.bipm.org/ws/CCTF/TAI_TRAINING/Allowed/Fundamentals/Training-2012-GNSS-Defraigne.pdf https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/stamp/stamp.jsp?arnumber=7909843 I tried to collect some

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency Ensemble

2019-03-18 Thread Tim Lister
On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 8:03 AM Rodger via time-nuts wrote: > > Tom, > > Thanks for the explanation of clock ensembles. That answered a few > questions I've had for a while. > Regarding your comments on collecting raw time data from GPS and post > processing it. Can you provide any reference

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency Ensemble

2019-03-18 Thread Michael Wouters
This project www.openttp.org provides software for post-processing of raw data for time-transfer from some currently available single frequency receivers. It provides CGGTTS and RINEX, the latter for use with the various PPP services. There are some tools in there too for doing eg common view and

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency Ensemble

2019-03-18 Thread Dan Kemppainen
Bob, I recalled the plot you posted a few days ago. Nice plot on the F9P, BTW. Thanks for posting that. I don't supposed you happened to be recording a similar plot with a L1 only Ublox part at the same time by chance, did you? I think it would be interesting to compare a 6T or M8 part to

[time-nuts] Frequency Ensemble

2019-03-18 Thread Mark Sims
Lady Heather can output RINEX (v2.xx and 3.xx files) for most receivers that output pseudorange and/or carrier phase data. I have tested it with the Ublox 4T, 5T, 6T, 8T, F9P, and F9T receivers. Also the Venus RTK receivers, Trimble NetRS, Ashtech Z12,, NVS08, Trimble timing receivers, and

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency Ensemble

2019-03-18 Thread Michael Wouters
The f9p is about 3 times better than the ublox m8t. Will post a plot later.. Cheers Michael On Tue, 19 Mar 2019 at 9:00 am, Bob kb8tq wrote: > Hi > > ….. and here I was wondering if it had ever gone out :) Glad it made it. > > No, I did not run any single frequency units beside it. It is much

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution amplifier for 10MHz and 1 pps

2019-03-18 Thread Julien Goodwin
The 74S140 (dual 4-input NAND) is the classic TI TTL 50-ohm driver. They're still available in DIP & SOIC. I'm currently waiting on some boards to arrive so I can try SN74LVC1G17 as a more modern replacement that's much cheaper and smaller. Once I've proven it I'll do a separate thread to the