Re: [time-nuts] Good clean-up oscillators

2019-01-24 Thread jimlux
On 1/24/19 12:58 PM, jimlux wrote: On 1/24/19 1:04 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: Hi Luciano, Thanks for that overview, I was kind of looking for something like that and hoping that someone had some form of overview. It looks like this is a spec-sheet based investigation. Wonder if we could

Re: [time-nuts] Good clean-up oscillators

2019-01-24 Thread Mark Goldberg
On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 2:01 PM jimlux wrote: > > At least one version is available from Mouser for $85. > > And I'm sure if I wanted to order one with something slightly different, > Vectron would do it. > > > >From my previous experience (asking for a custom frequency TCXO) Vectron's business

Re: [time-nuts] HP History with Dymec: "Becoming Hewlett Packard. Why Strategic Leadership Matters"

2019-01-24 Thread Andy
I am not sure if it's the same Dymec, but I may have heard of them. This was a few decades ago. Among other things, they made wonderful modular voltage-to-frequency converters. I was a young engineer and I thought their V-F was amazing. We used their 0-10MHz model, which seemed darn good back

Re: [time-nuts] Good clean-up oscillators

2019-01-24 Thread jimlux
On 1/24/19 1:04 AM, Magnus Danielson wrote: Hi Luciano, Thanks for that overview, I was kind of looking for something like that and hoping that someone had some form of overview. It looks like this is a spec-sheet based investigation. Wonder if we could collect up a measurement based one.

Re: [time-nuts] Prescalers ?

2019-01-24 Thread Bob via time-nuts
HiI use the Moto 12080 prescaler chip for that application on my various counters.  it's strappable for Div by 10 and works in excess of 1 GHz, easy to feed.  Sensitivity in the -20 Dbm range 50 ohms. SMT package.  Cheap too.  I have some excess boards  3/8 inch by 1 1/2 inch  with on-board

Re: [time-nuts] Good clean-up oscillators

2019-01-24 Thread Achim Gratz
Poul-Henning Kamp writes: > The TODO point is to take a RaspBerry Pi, run a tight loop with all > which wiggles a GPIO pin with all interrupts disabled, and measure > the phase noise. You'll quickly find out that the ARM part of the BCM SoC is not fully in command. The VC4 GPU is calling all the

Re: [time-nuts] HP History with Dymec: "Becoming Hewlett Packard. Why Strategic Leadership Matters"

2019-01-24 Thread Ton Bouw
Dymec abbreviated it's name to dy but with a font that looked like hp but written upside down. If I recall correctly the Dymec instrument I used in 1970 was supplied with an HP manual. Ton PA0TBR On Thu, 24 Jan 2019 at 19:03, Wes wrote: > A little more topic drift, but on the subject of books

Re: [time-nuts] HP History with Dymec: "Becoming Hewlett Packard. Why Strategic Leadership Matters"

2019-01-24 Thread Wes
A little more topic drift, but on the subject of books about HP (forgive me if this one has already been mentioned) I have a copy of "Inventions of Opportunity: Matching Technology with Market Needs".  This is mostly selections from HP Journal with an introduction by Bill Hewlett. It does

Re: [time-nuts] Prescalers ?

2019-01-24 Thread Bob Bownes
Mark, I had pretty good luck with a Hittite prescaler built into a board for the 5328 as outlined by Bert, VE2ZAZ. http://ve2zaz.net/hp5328a/hp5328a_prescaler.htm It's a wee bit deaf as frequency goes up, but works just fine! Bob On Thu, Jan 24, 2019 at 1:00 AM Mark Spencer wrote: > Hi: >

Re: [time-nuts] Prescalers ?

2019-01-24 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
On 1/24/2019 5:17 AM, Bob kb8tq wrote: Hi If you have a one time need to get to 1.3 GHz then some sort of cobbled together dead bug chip solution would be my pick of how to get it done. Cost wise it wold be hard to beat. There are also cooled up approaches It may seem like prescalers are a

Re: [time-nuts] Good clean-up oscillators

2019-01-24 Thread jimlux
On 1/23/19 9:22 PM, Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: On 1/23/2019 7:59 PM, jimlux wrote: My idea was to get an OCXO without the oven (or with the oven disabled) - the idea was that an OCXO will have high Q for good phase noise, and I can deal with the frequency shift due to frequency and

Re: [time-nuts] Good clean-up oscillators

2019-01-24 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Luciano, Thanks for that overview, I was kind of looking for something like that and hoping that someone had some form of overview. It looks like this is a spec-sheet based investigation. Wonder if we could collect up a measurement based one. Cheers, Magnus On 1/24/19 8:28 AM,

Re: [time-nuts] Prescalers ?

2019-01-24 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi If you have a one time need to get to 1.3 GHz then some sort of cobbled together dead bug chip solution would be my pick of how to get it done. Cost wise it wold be hard to beat. There are also cooled up approaches with signal generators and mixers ( no don’t go there …). If you will be

Re: [time-nuts] Time-Nuts

2019-01-24 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Jerry, As agreed I now reply on-list. (Jerry replied off-list but I think this would be a good additional comment on-list he consented to me posting this here) A valuable reference-point as this predates the 5360A by two years, but show the main property so it is a very valid contender.

Re: [time-nuts] time-nuts Digest, Vol 174, Issue 35

2019-01-24 Thread Andre
Hi, This is also relevant to my experiments with SDR. For my purposes I added a reverse biased blue LED to each pin on the crystal. On my radio reversing it so the crystal was on the back revealed the two pads someone had forgotten to put capacitors on explaining one of the problems. This

Re: [time-nuts] Good clean-up oscillators

2019-01-24 Thread Mark Goldberg
On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 11:00 PM Richard (Rick) Karlquist < rich...@karlquist.com> wrote: > > > The 10811 brings out oven and oscillator power separately. However, > if you don't power up the oven, the crystal will be way off frequency > so your idea is a non-starter. > > Not to go too far off

Re: [time-nuts] Good clean-up oscillators

2019-01-24 Thread tim...@timeok.it
Magnus, here the list of the most interesting OCXO with the phase noise as declared by the companies. Luciano http://www.timeok.it/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/ocxo-comparative-table1.pdf Da "time-nuts" time-nuts-boun...@lists.febo.com A "Discussion of precise time and

Re: [time-nuts] Ublox F9P multi-band GPS receiver

2019-01-24 Thread Dustin Marquess
This looks ideal to me: https://www.u-blox.com/sites/default/files/RCB-F9T_ProductSummary_%28UBX-18069985%29.pdf -Dustin On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 8:01 PM Angus via time-nuts wrote: > > Hi, > > It doesn't look like the F9P does anything special for timing - the > timing specs given in the F9T