Re: [time-nuts] FE 5650A CFOM Rubidium Standard

2019-05-29 Thread Taka Kamiya via time-nuts
https://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/2013-December/081788.html This link talks about CPOM option.  Perhaps part of P rubbed off? I read somewhere, 5V thing is just a cost saving and nothing else.  From memory, I recall it's just a 3 terminal regulator inside.  Perhaps that blew???

[time-nuts] FE 5650A CFOM Rubidium Standard

2019-05-29 Thread Paul Christensen
I recently acquired an FE 5650A 10 MHz standard. So far, I cannot get the status indictor to lock. This 5650A has option "CFOM" whatever that means. It appears the 5650A came in several configurations. I do not see that option listed in the FE manual. My other 56050A has option 20 and lets me

Re: [time-nuts] Updating the unit of,time: the second.

2019-05-29 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi I believe the “guess” is that all will be met within a year or three. Bob > On May 29, 2019, at 12:22 PM, Dana Whitlow wrote: > > Ole, > > Is it when all 5 conditions are met, or just any one of them? > > Thanks, > > Dana > > > On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 11:00 AM Ole Petter Rønningen >

Re: [time-nuts] Updating the unit of,time: the second.

2019-05-29 Thread Ole Petter Ronningen
Hi, Dana My understanding is that all criteria should be met, but the list might be refined. Dr. Martin Milton, Director of the BIPM gave a talk on the subject on this years IFCS/EFTF; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qsgl8AHBU7c (redefinition of the second at around 33 minutes, but the whole talk

Re: [time-nuts] Updating the unit of,time: the second.

2019-05-29 Thread Dana Whitlow
Ole, Is it when all 5 conditions are met, or just any one of them? Thanks, Dana On Wed, May 29, 2019 at 11:00 AM Ole Petter Rønningen wrote: > As supporting material; BIPM is considering when a redefinition would be > appropriate: >

[time-nuts] LeoNTP PPS output to PC DB9 input

2019-05-29 Thread Leo Bodnar
LeoNTP uses short-circuit tolerant LVCMOS driver with 3.3V level output. > Does the LeoNTP BNC output come up in the last configured state? Of course it does. Leo ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Updating the unit of,time: the second.

2019-05-29 Thread Ole Petter Rønningen
As supporting material; BIPM is considering when a redefinition would be appropriate: https://www.bipm.org/utils/common/pdf/CGPM-2018/CGPM-2018-Time-2-LD.pdf And https://www.bipm.org/utils/en/pdf/CCTF-strategy-document.pdf annex 1 (and a few other places) Extract: The time for a new

Re: [time-nuts] GPS 1PPS, phase lock vs frequency lock, design

2019-05-29 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The TBolt is a very unique design. It directly uses code phase information against the OCXO. The net result is really no different than the “correction message” approach, but it is a different implementation. Since you can’t *buy* the guts of a TBolt to strap into a DIY GPSDO, it’s not

Re: [time-nuts] GPS 1PPS, phase lock vs frequency lock, design

2019-05-29 Thread Alberto di Bene
On 2019-05-29 14:53, Attila Kinali wrote: The saw-tooth correction is the error of the PPS signal, as generated by the hardware, and where it really should be. The clocks of most GPS receivers are in the order of 20-60MHz and are usually unsteered TCXOs (or even XO for the cheap ones). Hence the

Re: [time-nuts] GPS 1PPS, phase lock vs frequency lock, design

2019-05-29 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 29 May 2019 14:53:07 +0200 Attila Kinali wrote: > > 2)  I think I understand this.  Further I will have to understand  what the > > optimal PLL BW is in light of the OCXO short-term ADEV being potentially > > better than GPS 1PPS with correction.  Perhaps this means the loop BW > >

Re: [time-nuts] Updating the unit of,time: the second.

2019-05-29 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 28 May 2019 22:56:35 +0200 Mike Cook wrote: > a. There is no need for a new definition. There is. Current optical clocks deliver a lower uncertainty than Cs fountain clocks. Ie the reference we have is less precise than the measurement tools we have. Hence a redefinition of the second

Re: [time-nuts] GPS 1PPS, phase lock vs frequency lock, design

2019-05-29 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 28 May 2019 18:39:34 + (UTC) life speed via time-nuts wrote: > Attila, > Thanks for taking the time to respond and share your practical experiences in > this area.  Your explanations are very helpful, I have a few more questions > if you don't mind: > 1)  Would you elaborate on the

Re: [time-nuts] LeoNTP PPS output to PC DB9 input

2019-05-29 Thread Mike Cook
I don’t have one of these but I wouldn’t connect anything to anything without knowing the specs. I went to their site but could not find any specs on the outputs on the BNC connector. I should mail them at ord...@uputronics.com for the details. It could be a simple BNC to DB9 soldering job.

Re: [time-nuts] LeoNTP PPS output to PC DB9 input

2019-05-29 Thread Hal Murray
t...@aussec.com said: >> Alternatively, is there a simpler way to achieve the goal? > No, you really need a level shifting stage that > converts the PPS to RS232 levels. I've been running a PPS from a TBolt directly in to a RS232 without a level shifter for years without any problems. In the

Re: [time-nuts] LeoNTP PPS output to PC DB9 input

2019-05-29 Thread Brent Gordon
Hello Anthony, Those cables will NOT work.  The BNC connectors are 75 Ohms, which will damage the 50 Ohm connector on the server. Yes, pin1 is DCD.  You might need level shifting, but probably not. For the cable, just buy a cheap BNC cable and a DE-9 (sometimes erroneously called DB-9)

Re: [time-nuts] LeoNTP PPS output to PC DB9 input

2019-05-29 Thread tom burkart
Quoting Anthony Dunne : Firstly would this work? Yes. Secondly, my dilemma is the pin-out. I believe on the DB9 pin 1 is DCD (the actual pulse) and pin 5 is the ground. Is this correct? Yes. Could I use a cable such as this:- No. Alternatively, is there a simpler way to achieve the