Re: [time-nuts] TCXO improvement

2019-08-02 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The “normal” approach is to stabilize the inner wall and cross section (= open tube) of the dewar. Often this is done with a metal “plug”. It may or may not extend to the bottom of the dewar. A lot depends on fiddly little details about how much heat you are generating in the circuitry

Re: [time-nuts] TCXO improvement

2019-08-02 Thread Dana Whitlow
Question: Do you stabilize the oscillator inside the dewar, or do you stabilize the temperature of the dewar's outside environment? This may boil down to a slightly different expression: Where do you *sense* the temperature for the stabilization loop? On the crystal itself, or on the outside

Re: [time-nuts] TCXO improvement

2019-08-02 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi There are a lot of dewar / vacuum flasks on eBay in a wide variety of shapes and sizes. Some get into the proper combination of affordability, size and shape. There does not appear to be a constant supply of any one version so it is very much shop and see. Dewar based OCXO’s go way back ( in

Re: [time-nuts] TCXO improvement

2019-08-02 Thread Bill Slade
Hello! I have done this and can attest that it works well. I did not use a TCXO, though. I used a 48 MHz, third-overtone AT-cut crystal in a Colpitts oscillator configuration. The vacuum flask was ovenized to maintain temperature near the stationary point of the temp characteristic (near 50

Re: [time-nuts] FSA3011 Frequency Stability Analyzer

2019-08-02 Thread Jan Boutsen
Hello TOM,, I have one underway via Aliexpress. In a research project at a university ,a side line is stability of some sources. Apart from more classical measurements, the setup of the FSA3011 and measurements of several sources can be done by one ore more students as project work. This however