Re: [time-nuts] can of worms: time-of-day in a community radio station

2019-10-18 Thread Hal Murray
Just out of curiosity, how many PSc/laptops/servers does it take to run a radio station? e...@scace.org said: > What NTP software should be used on Windows OS machines? Linux servers? There is a version of ntpd available for Windows. Meinberg builds and distributes it. Most Linux distros

Re: [time-nuts] can of worms: time-of-day in a community radio station

2019-10-18 Thread paul swed
Have no idea if they exist still but what you need is time of day clocks and what are called shot clocks. A shot clock is a clock thats preloaded with a segment duration and counts to zero. No thinking is the key. These have been used for years and years. That makes talents job very very easy.It

Re: [time-nuts] can of worms: time-of-day in a community radio station

2019-10-18 Thread Martin Flynn
Our makerspace is using a BSD licensed product called OAS (On Air Screen) in the studio, with a slave displays planned at the engineers workstation, and in the Makerspace workshop . Link: github.com/saschaludwig/OnAirScreen OAS has been set up on an Raspberry  PI, with the PoE shield on the

Re: [time-nuts] can of worms: time-of-day in a community radio station

2019-10-18 Thread Taka Kamiya via time-nuts
I only have one idea.  Something I thought of doing it myself but have not done so, yet. I think syncing locations with GPS or ntp is good enough for time synchronization.  But display could be problematic.  As they make transition from one program to another, 1 second overlap or 1 second of

Re: [time-nuts] can of worms: time-of-day in a community radio station

2019-10-18 Thread David C. Partridge
use Meinberg ntp if running Windows systems. If you can you can drive an analog display derived from the system time all the better as humans can relate to that better than a digital clock display. Daviud -Original Message- From: time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@lists.febo.com] On

Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-18 Thread paul swed
I have used the amplifiers for years. Good grade GVGs and extrons. They just work. Though like everyone I considered shifting to 50 ohms it never seemed worth the effort. In fact most of my distribution is 75 ohms. Cable and connectors are cheap well shielded and easy to install. They make very

Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-18 Thread ed breya
I have a Hitachi VD-1000 video distribution unit that's been sitting unused for years, waiting until I finally get around to making it into a reference unit. I just dug it out and looked inside. It is full of RCA jack cables for jumping the signals around in different ways. I apparently had

Re: [time-nuts] can of worms: time-of-day in a community radio station

2019-10-18 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi A very normal internet based NTP setup will do what you wish to do. The main task is to make sure that your devices are *really* running NTP and not some odd thing built into their OS. The more devices / operating systems / OS versions / system configurations you have the more exciting

Re: [time-nuts] can of worms: time-of-day in a community radio station

2019-10-18 Thread Eric Scace
Sadly the formatting of the original message was stripped by the email server. Here is a slightly more comprehensible version. On 2019 Oct 18, at 15:20 , Eric Scace wrote: I fear that I am developing a reputation for bringing to the list rather oddball questions. In my rôle as agent

[time-nuts] can of worms: time-of-day in a community radio station

2019-10-18 Thread Eric Scace
I fear that I am developing a reputation for bringing to the list rather oddball questions. In my rôle as agent provocateur, therefore, here is another such problem. Questions for you are at the end. Thanks for your thoughts,. — Eric Issue: A community broadcast radio station with

Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-18 Thread Bob Bownes
I have a few of the 2 in 5 out video distribution amps. I took one apart and converted it to 50Ω from 75Ω, and to be honest, I can't really see a difference. Bob On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 8:08 AM Charles Steinmetz wrote: > Taka Kamiya wrote: > > > I am using Extron MDA 3V for distributing 10MHz

Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-18 Thread Dana Whitlow
Hello Taka, As long as you stick to CW sinewaves *and* the distribution amp specs are honest when they say "buffered out puts", the problem is fairly simple. If you're not seeing distortion under your operating load and signal amplitudes, it's OK and I'd not bother to change anything. By

Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-18 Thread Clint Jay
FWIW, I've been using an Extron video distribution amp for almost three years now, bought with the intention of modifying it to 50R but never got round to it. I've never been able to identify a practical reason to change it because it works perfectly for my needs though I'm sure others will

Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-18 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Taka Kamiya wrote: I am using Extron MDA 3V for distributing 10MHz at several places in my lab. MDA3V is a one port in - 3 port out device made for VIDEO market and rather low end at that. Input and output is 75 ohm and bandwidth extend to 150MHz or so. Looking at 10MHz sine wave through

[time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-18 Thread Taka Kamiya via time-nuts
I am using Extron MDA 3V for distributing 10MHz at several places in my lab.  MDA3V is a one port in - 3 port out device made for VIDEO market and rather low end at that.  Input and output is 75 ohm and bandwidth extend to 150MHz or so.  Looking at 10MHz sine wave through it, it looks good.  No