Re: [time-nuts] A silly question ...

2018-10-01 Thread Tom Van Baak
> Dave B. (G0WBX) > > PS: I do like the idea of setting up a camera to take a photo of the > 'scope every hour or so! Not practical for many I guess, but it > illustrates the point well. But the aliasing opportunity I think would > be perhaps too great, in essence being a sampled data system by

Re: [time-nuts] A silly question ...

2018-10-01 Thread Dave B via time-nuts
ink would be perhaps too great, in essence being a sampled data system by then.   Also, one then needs an accurate 1 hour timer!   And so it goes on ;-) On 28/09/18 17:00, time-nuts-requ...@lists.febo.c

Re: [time-nuts] A silly question ...

2018-09-28 Thread Bill Byrom
In addition to nonlinear issues with output amplifiers, filters have poor performance when improperly terminated. This can lead to harmonic distortion and that can be a problem. You want the duty cycle to be exactly 50%. See:https://tf.boulder.nist.gov/general/pdf/1437.pdf -- Bill Byrom N5BB

Re: [time-nuts] A silly question ...

2018-09-28 Thread Tom Curlee
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] A silly question ... > "I think", that if for example, it takes 1 second to drift one cycle, > that works out at 0.1 ppm. If it takes 2 second

Re: [time-nuts] A silly question ...

2018-09-28 Thread Dana Whitlow
Hi, There is one other issue that can bite you if you fail to properly terminate the output of a source: Depending on the source's design, an essentially unloaded output can have a substantially higher voltage swing than expected (by 2X if the source impedance is actually 50 ohms), possibly

Re: [time-nuts] A silly question ...

2018-09-28 Thread Bill Byrom
On Thu, Sep 27, 2018, at 11:55 AM, Dave B via time-nuts wrote: > Triggering a dual beam 'scope (Tek 465) from the TB on Ch1, and having> the > output of the OCXO on Ch2, the resulting display on Ch2 of course> drifts in > relation to the static waveform on Ch1. (Both nice > sinusoids.) The Tek

Re: [time-nuts] A silly question ...

2018-09-28 Thread bill.riches
-Original Message- From: time-nuts On Behalf Of Tom Van Baak Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 2:18 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] A silly question ... > "I think", that if for example, it takes 1 second to dr

Re: [time-nuts] A silly question ...

2018-09-27 Thread Tom Van Baak
> "I think", that if for example, it takes 1 second to drift one cycle, > that works out at 0.1 ppm. If it takes 2 seconds, it's 0.05 ppm, if it > takes 5 seconds, it's 0.02 ppm etc. Is that correct? Yes. At 10 MHz one full cycle is 100 ns. So if the cycles are drifting by 100 ns per second

Re: [time-nuts] A silly question ...

2018-09-27 Thread David Van Horn
Even with a DSO, if you sync to the Thunderbolt output, you can watch the free running osc drift relative to the Thunderbolt. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] A silly question ...

2018-09-27 Thread David G. McGaw
Correct. David N1HAC On 9/27/18 12:55 PM, Dave B via time-nuts wrote: > ... Because I'm sure I should be able to figure this out for myself! > > I have (as many of you do also) one of the venerable Trimble Thunderbolt > devices.  No problem with that.  All works fine, and is run 24/7, UPS >

[time-nuts] A silly question ...

2018-09-27 Thread Dave B via time-nuts
... Because I'm sure I should be able to figure this out for myself! I have (as many of you do also) one of the venerable Trimble Thunderbolt devices.  No problem with that.  All works fine, and is run 24/7, UPS backup power and all... I also have (again, as many of you do...) a free running