Re: [time-nuts] Antique pendulum clocks

2019-11-22 Thread Philip Gladstone
Thanks for these links. The Harrison clocks are amazing -- I saw them at Greenwich some years ago. The Trinity reference also amuses me as that was my college (quite a long time ago). Back in the 60s, my father and his cousin were competing to produce accurate pendulum clocks with accuracies of

Re: [time-nuts] Antique pendulum clocks

2019-11-22 Thread Dave Daniel
I have two pendulum clocks, one a 1930s-era torsional pendulum clock from Bavaria and the other a swinging pendulum clock built around 1990. I will follow this thread closely. Tom, you mentioned that there are lots of resources out there - can you elucidate? Thanks. DaveD Sent from a small

Re: [time-nuts] Antique pendulum clocks

2019-11-22 Thread Ben Bradley
You may be interested in a thread here earlier this year titled "Absolute time accuracy pre-Cesium?" starting March 25. Also, look for references to John Harrison in the archives. There's a video showing several of his clocks running with the grasshopper escapement, and one of his long clocks

Re: [time-nuts] Antique pendulum clocks

2019-11-22 Thread Tony Finch
Philip Gladstone wrote: > > The data that I get is surprising in that the pendulum swing varies > according to the position of the hands on the clock. Clocks with large outdoor faces have extra problems along those lines... http://trin-hosts.trin.cam.ac.uk/clock/main.php?menu_option=pigeons

Re: [time-nuts] Antique pendulum clocks

2019-11-21 Thread paul swed
Heck as much as I like clocks I just want to see Adrians working HP 9815 calculator. Other comment for me at least is a good clock is a marvel by itself. Adding electronics removes the amazing engineering that went into the clock. By good I mean clocks few of us can afford. Though on time-nuts I

Re: [time-nuts] Antique pendulum clocks

2019-11-20 Thread Matthew D'Asaro
You are not the first to try this. The usual method for timing mechanical clocks is either acoustic (a microphone picks up the sound of the escapement) or optical (a sensor is blocked from light by the pendulum). The optical method is more accurate but more cumbersome to setup. Matthew Sent

[time-nuts] Antique pendulum clocks

2019-11-20 Thread Mark Sims
Whenever Dollar Tree those solar cell powered "nodding" figurines on sale (for $1) I pick one up (btw, they haven't had any for several months). A friend of mine loaned me his 16 channel 10 ns FPGA based time stamping counter. So, I picked out 16 different nodders (out of 100 or so unique

Re: [time-nuts] Antique pendulum clocks

2019-11-20 Thread Dana Whitlow
Somewhere, a few years ago, I saw a video in which a fairly large number of metronomes were mounted on a common base and exhibited some interesting injection locking behavior. Personally I keep thinking of phase locking a G'father clock to a Rb standard. The trick will be to do so in a manner

Re: [time-nuts] Antique pendulum clocks

2019-11-20 Thread Steve Allen
On Wed 2019-11-20T16:51:00-0900 Bill Beam hath writ: > Most people interested in this problem have been dead for about 200 years. Au contraire. The BIH started operations early in the 1920s and those volumes of BIH Bulletin Horaire are scanned online. The first 20 years relied largely on

Re: [time-nuts] Antique pendulum clocks

2019-11-20 Thread jimlux
On 11/20/19 5:51 PM, Bill Beam wrote: On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 20:10:14 -0500, Philip Gladstone wrote: I've started to monitor the individual ticks on a grandfather clock from the 1790s. Essentially I timestamp whenever the pendulum breaks/restores a light beam. The data that I get is surprising

Re: [time-nuts] Antique pendulum clocks

2019-11-20 Thread Adrian Godwin
On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 2:01 AM Bill Beam wrote: > Most people interested in this problem have been dead for about 200 years. > > I knew there was a reason why I didn't feel so well lately .. I have an electric pendulum clock by Bulle. A coil swings in a short arc, following a curved magnetic

Re: [time-nuts] Antique pendulum clocks

2019-11-20 Thread Bill Beam
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 20:10:14 -0500, Philip Gladstone wrote: >I've started to monitor the individual ticks on a grandfather clock from >the 1790s. Essentially I timestamp whenever the pendulum breaks/restores a >light beam. >The data that I get is surprising in that the pendulum swing varies

Re: [time-nuts] Antique pendulum clocks

2019-11-20 Thread Tom Van Baak
Hi Philip, For low rate measurements like a pendulum clock the timestamping method works well. A number of us do it that way. The same method works for GPS/1PPS-like signals and also mains (raw 50/60, or divided down to 1) Hz. Correct, if your measurements are precise enough, you should see

[time-nuts] Antique pendulum clocks

2019-11-20 Thread Philip Gladstone
I've started to monitor the individual ticks on a grandfather clock from the 1790s. Essentially I timestamp whenever the pendulum breaks/restores a light beam. The data that I get is surprising in that the pendulum swing varies according to the position of the hands on the clock. It appears that