Re: [time-nuts] Examples of noise processes

2019-03-15 Thread Dana Whitlow
Folks, Please be careful about definitions in this discussion. To some people, "phase noise" refers to sideband noise, away from the carrier, arising from some form of random phase modulation of the carrier. To others, the same term refers to the underlying phase modulation itself. While

Re: [time-nuts] Examples of noise processes

2019-03-15 Thread Attila Kinali
Did someone say "noise processes"? :-) On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 10:03:11 -0400 John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > For a presentation on basic time-nuttery, I'd like to find > non-oscillator examples of the various noise processes -- white PM, > flicker PM, white FM, flicker FM, random walk. (I'm not

Re: [time-nuts] Examples of noise processes

2019-03-15 Thread jimlux
On 3/15/19 7:03 AM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: Hi -- For a presentation on basic time-nuttery, I'd like to find non-oscillator examples of the various noise processes -- white PM, flicker PM, white FM, flicker FM, random walk.  (I'm not sure if FM and PM have any relevance outside

[time-nuts] Examples of noise processes

2019-03-15 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Hi -- For a presentation on basic time-nuttery, I'd like to find non-oscillator examples of the various noise processes -- white PM, flicker PM, white FM, flicker FM, random walk. (I'm not sure if FM and PM have any relevance outside oscillators, though.) The idea is to make the noise