Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-24 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Luciano wrote: The CLC409 datasheet show all the test response up to +12dBm (around 1Vpp on 75/50Ohm load) see: pdf.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheet/nationalsemiconductor/DS012748.PDF I'm reporting what I have observed with the CLC409 (and LMH6702) when operated on the "absolute max"

Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-23 Thread tim...@timeok.it
Charles wrote: >Well, there is a distinct difference between DAs that use a single amplifier (discrete or integrated) to drive each output channel (as your design does), and DAs that drive multiple outputs from each amplifier using build-out resistors. In the case of the Extron

Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-23 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Luciano wrote: The Extron is a very nice solution, certainly of modest price, but we must consider * * * the low separation between the output channels. Well, there is a distinct difference between DAs that use a single amplifier (discrete or integrated) to drive each output

Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-19 Thread Bob kb8tq
>> >> From: time-nuts on behalf of ed breya < >> e...@telight.com> >> Sent: October 18, 2019 1:39 PM >> To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock

Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-19 Thread Taka Kamiya via time-nuts
iscussion of precise time and frequency measurement" time-nuts@lists.febo.com   Cc   Data Sat, 19 Oct 2019 08:30:02 +0000   Oggetto Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.   There is a schematic here on the Extron uploaded by a TN member. The schematic f

Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-19 Thread tim...@timeok.it
quot;Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" time-nuts@lists.febo.com Cc Data Sat, 19 Oct 2019 08:30:02 +0000 Oggetto Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution. There is a schematic here on the Extron uploaded by a TN member. The sche

Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-19 Thread ed breya
I think there may be some confusion due to similarity of names. Extron apparently makes or made video gear. Efratom made Rb sources and precision frequency distribution stuff. I'd like to find info on the Efratom distribution system, and specifically the "MBF" modules. Ed

Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-19 Thread paul swed
p?id=download=02_GPS_Timing/Extron_ADA_6_modifications_for_use_as_10MHz_distribution_amp_STEINMETZ.pdf > > > > -=Bryan=- > > > From: time-nuts on behalf of ed breya < > e...@telight.com> > Sent: October 18, 2019 1:39 PM > To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Usin

Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-19 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 19.10.19 um 10:30 schrieb Bryan _: There is a schematic here on the Extron uploaded by a TN member. The schematic for the Extron looks looks dead simple that one could really just make a simple 3 channel with the included mods in the writeup, only problem is I don't see a source for a

Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-19 Thread Bryan _
ber 18, 2019 1:39 PM To: time-nuts@lists.febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution. I have a Hitachi VD-1000 video distribution unit that's been sitting unused for years, waiting until I finally get around to making it into a reference unit.

Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-18 Thread paul swed
I have used the amplifiers for years. Good grade GVGs and extrons. They just work. Though like everyone I considered shifting to 50 ohms it never seemed worth the effort. In fact most of my distribution is 75 ohms. Cable and connectors are cheap well shielded and easy to install. They make very

Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-18 Thread ed breya
I have a Hitachi VD-1000 video distribution unit that's been sitting unused for years, waiting until I finally get around to making it into a reference unit. I just dug it out and looked inside. It is full of RCA jack cables for jumping the signals around in different ways. I apparently had

Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-18 Thread Bob Bownes
I have a few of the 2 in 5 out video distribution amps. I took one apart and converted it to 50Ω from 75Ω, and to be honest, I can't really see a difference. Bob On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 8:08 AM Charles Steinmetz wrote: > Taka Kamiya wrote: > > > I am using Extron MDA 3V for distributing 10MHz

Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-18 Thread Dana Whitlow
Hello Taka, As long as you stick to CW sinewaves *and* the distribution amp specs are honest when they say "buffered out puts", the problem is fairly simple. If you're not seeing distortion under your operating load and signal amplitudes, it's OK and I'd not bother to change anything. By

Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-18 Thread Clint Jay
FWIW, I've been using an Extron video distribution amp for almost three years now, bought with the intention of modifying it to 50R but never got round to it. I've never been able to identify a practical reason to change it because it works perfectly for my needs though I'm sure others will

Re: [time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-18 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Taka Kamiya wrote: I am using Extron MDA 3V for distributing 10MHz at several places in my lab. MDA3V is a one port in - 3 port out device made for VIDEO market and rather low end at that. Input and output is 75 ohm and bandwidth extend to 150MHz or so. Looking at 10MHz sine wave through

[time-nuts] Using commercial video amplifier for 10MHz clock distribution.

2019-10-18 Thread Taka Kamiya via time-nuts
I am using Extron MDA 3V for distributing 10MHz at several places in my lab.  MDA3V is a one port in - 3 port out device made for VIDEO market and rather low end at that.  Input and output is 75 ohm and bandwidth extend to 150MHz or so.  Looking at 10MHz sine wave through it, it looks good.  No