Re: [time-nuts] What is the BEST crystal?

2020-03-01 Thread Bernd Neubig
etreff: Re: [time-nuts] What is the BEST crystal? Interferogram showing vibration nodes etc for quartz ring resonator frequency standard attached. Bruce > On 01 March 2020 at 14:27 Bob kb8tq wrote: > > > Hi > > It’s also the size of the 2.5 MHz 5th’s and similar parts m

Re: [time-nuts] What is the BEST crystal?

2020-03-01 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Dana The text merely indicates that Tolansky and Bardsley obtained these images in 1948. The annular crystal was one of the NPL frequency standards of the time. However, given that the fringes are multiple beam fringes, a high reflectivity electrode must lie on the top surface of the ring.

Re: [time-nuts] What is the BEST crystal?

2020-03-01 Thread Dana Whitlow
Bruce, is there any text about the ring resonator which discusses the features in the interferogram? Also I'd be interested in the configuration of the electrodes. My present interpretation is that the vibratory resonance stems from contra-rotating modes each propagating around the ring, and

Re: [time-nuts] What is the BEST crystal?

2020-02-29 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Interferogram showing vibration nodes etc for quartz ring resonator frequency standard attached. Bruce > On 01 March 2020 at 14:27 Bob kb8tq wrote: > > > Hi > > It’s also the size of the 2.5 MHz 5th’s and similar parts made “way back”. > They went into glass packages > the size of door

Re: [time-nuts] What is the BEST crystal?

2020-02-29 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi It’s also the size of the 2.5 MHz 5th’s and similar parts made “way back”. They went into glass packages the size of door knobs. Packaging / design / mounting / processing has changed a lot since then. Bob > On Feb 29, 2020, at 7:41 PM, John Moran, Scawby Design > wrote: > > Wow, that

Re: [time-nuts] What is the BEST crystal?

2020-02-29 Thread Bruce Griffiths
IIRC Tolansky obtained some interferograms illustrating the surface deflections of these acoustic resonators. I'll unearth my copy of Tolansky's book on optical interferometry and check. Bruce > On 01 March 2020 at 13:41 "John Moran, Scawby Design" > wrote: > > > Wow, that provoked an

Re: [time-nuts] What is the BEST crystal?

2020-02-29 Thread John Moran, Scawby Design
Wow, that provoked an interesting discussion! Thanks for all the information and references to further information - it should keep me quiet for a while. Interestingly 50mm diameter was about the diameter of the crystals used by the British Post Office in the early days for generating a master