Re: [time-nuts] thunderbolt no UTC offset

2012-05-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 05/02/2012 03:50 AM, Dennis Ferguson wrote: On 2 May, 2012, at 04:30 , Tom Van Baak wrote: The UTC offset is in words 6-10, page 18, subframe 4 -- every 12.5 minutes. /tvb The leap second warning is also in the same place. How the unit could know that a leap second is pending but not

Re: [time-nuts] Sw for pm6680B

2012-05-02 Thread Azelio Boriani
With the 350pS single shot resolution the PM6680 can't replace the 20pS of the 5370. Keep the 5370 as well. The PM6681 is 50pS. The SR620 is 25pS. On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 5:13 AM, Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm) pfmo...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Hi Nigel, Magnus, Bjorn the Gang, Thanks for all your

Re: [time-nuts] thunderbolt no UTC offset

2012-05-02 Thread Azelio Boriani
In my opinion nothing has to be changed. It is working OK this way. To improve performance it is worth to use linear regulators for the power supply +12V and -12V that are related to the OCXO supply and EFC. On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:24 AM, francesco messineo francesco.messi...@gmail.com wrote:

[time-nuts] thunderbolt no UTC offset

2012-05-02 Thread Mark Sims
I think the tbolt may need to go through two 12.5 minute almanac cycles before it updates/outputs all its data... The first thing to do to improve performance is to run the a oscillator autotune command. This will determine the correct osc gain and initial DAC settings. It will also set the

[time-nuts] Interesting Clock Project

2012-05-02 Thread Rob Kimberley
I personally like the simplicity of this one. Material cost quite low, but takes a good team effort. http://iprl.wz.cz/ Rob Kimberley ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Sw for pm6680B

2012-05-02 Thread GandalfG8
In a message dated 02/05/2012 04:14:19 GMT Daylight Time, pfmo...@wanadoo.fr writes: Nigel, if you're referring to the 6680B which was on The Frenchy Bay last week, yes it's me, sorry if you were also on the deal... No problem, the one I saw was in the US, same seller had

Re: [time-nuts] Interesting Clock Project

2012-05-02 Thread shalimr9
I have noticed that it tends to lag when you stay on the page a while. I am sure that is just a matter of a simple adjustment... Thanks for the link :) Didier KO4BB --Original Message-- From: Rob Kimberley Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com To: Time-Nuts ReplyTo: Time-Nuts Subject:

Re: [time-nuts] thunderbolt no UTC offset

2012-05-02 Thread Didier Juges
Correction: the UTC offset is part of the *primary* data packet that is sent every second from the Thunderbolt, but as Tom pointed out, it has to receive the information from the satellite(s) first, which can take 12.5 minutes (Thunderbolt Users Guide, version 5, 2003, page A-56, paragraph Report

[time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?

2012-05-02 Thread cfo
Hi T-Nuts In january 2012 - I bought a Prologix GPIB interface from an Italian Seller sglabs on the Bay. Today i received a mail from the seller SNIP * I need a favor form you… Here in Italy is requiring by law…. that for all customers that have

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?

2012-05-02 Thread Prologix
Hello, Most likely a phishing mail. Please ignore. We will let SgLabs know. Regards. Abdul -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of cfo Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 8:48 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Anyone

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?

2012-05-02 Thread David C. Partridge
No, Italian law doesn't require DOB or place of birth registering for purchases, I suspect his email has been hi-jacked by someone who's attempting to get into the identity theft business. Dave -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?

2012-05-02 Thread Tom Knox
Sadly; It is currently one of the few growth industries in the EU. Thomas Knox From: david.partri...@perdrix.co.uk To: time-nuts@febo.com Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 17:30:40 +0100 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ? No, Italian law doesn't require DOB or place of birth

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?

2012-05-02 Thread Rob Kimberley
Lucky those who don't have to live in the EU!! Rob K (UK) -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Tom Knox Sent: 02 May 2012 17:35 To: Time-Nuts Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ? Sadly; It is currently one of

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?

2012-05-02 Thread Tom Knox
It is not much better in the States, Lately I have been thinking about selling my identity to make a little extra money. Thomas Knox From: robkimber...@btinternet.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 17:39:29 +0100 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ? Lucky

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?

2012-05-02 Thread Dan Rae
And as a first step you might want to tell eBay. Contrary to the general impression they do care :^( Dan ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the

Re: [time-nuts] Sw for pm6680B

2012-05-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 05/02/2012 09:52 AM, Azelio Boriani wrote: With the 350pS single shot resolution the PM6680 can't replace the 20pS of the 5370. Keep the 5370 as well. The PM6681 is 50pS. The SR620 is 25pS. Exactly what I wanted to point out. The 5370 has very good noise floor, so you want that until you

Re: [time-nuts] Sw for pm6680B

2012-05-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Pierre-François, On 05/02/2012 05:13 AM, Pierre-François (f5bqp_pfm) wrote: Hi Nigel, Magnus, Bjorn the Gang, Thanks for all your replies to my initial message, I appreciate very much. I downloaded the lastest version of TimeLab and will try it soon, I just tested the counter against my

Re: [time-nuts] Interesting Clock Project

2012-05-02 Thread Don Latham
At this URL I get something called Samwell what what in the butt, not a clock. Maybe I did not watch long enough? Don Rob Kimberley I personally like the simplicity of this one. Material cost quite low, but takes a good team effort. http://iprl.wz.cz/ Rob Kimberley

Re: [time-nuts] Interesting Clock Project

2012-05-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
Rob, On 05/02/2012 11:10 AM, Rob Kimberley wrote: I personally like the simplicity of this one. Material cost quite low, but takes a good team effort. http://iprl.wz.cz/ They have people working on it around the clock. It is a bit unclear where one inserts 10 MHz and PPS, but it is clear

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?

2012-05-02 Thread Alberto di Bene
On 5/2/2012 5:47 PM, cfo wrote: The mail actually looks quite authentic , Correct name phone# etc. But i have never heard of such a request before. And was wondering if any Italian T-Nut could verify that this request is valid. It seems a bit strange to me ... I am from Italy, and I can

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?

2012-05-02 Thread cfo
On Wed, 02 May 2012 09:58:53 -0700, Dan Rae wrote: And as a first step you might want to tell eBay. Contrary to the general impression they do care :^( Dan Done ... Reported to ebay PayPal CFO ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?

2012-05-02 Thread EWKehren
is not impression it is personal experience ebay does not care. Specially when it comes to volume sellers, a seller that time nuts use promised to pay shipping to return crap, gave me a choice give 5 star rating or no refund. Contacted ebay with the evidence, they did nothing and I did not

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?

2012-05-02 Thread J. L. Trantham
Are they trying to steal your identity? Sounds like a couple of good pieces of info to know! Joe -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of cfo Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 10:48 AM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts]

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?

2012-05-02 Thread J. Forster
Clearly a scam attempt, IMO. You have your stuff. You are not bound by Italian law, unless the EU is worse than I thought. IMO, ignore it, and if the purchase was made through eBay, report it as a phishing attempt. YMMV, -John === Hi T-Nuts In january 2012 - I bought a

Re: [time-nuts] Interesting Clock Project

2012-05-02 Thread Chuck Harris
That's what I get too. I would say that someone has substituted the gay black porn music video for the real website... in other words, the DNS has been hacked. Does anyone have the correct IP address (in dot code.)? -Chuck Harris Don Latham wrote: At this URL I get something called Samwell

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?

2012-05-02 Thread Claudio Girardi
On 05/02/2012 07:48 PM, Alberto di Bene wrote: I am from Italy, and I can assure you that such info is not required by any Italian law. Don't give away information that could in the end result in an identity thief... Alberto, I'm not an expert in the ever-changing italian fiscal laws, but

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?

2012-05-02 Thread Azelio Boriani
Never seen a request like that before... usually they try to get login credentials for home banking, credit cards accounts and the like. Here in Italy, every transaction with the tax authority starts with the VAT ID (our codice fiscale). On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:20 PM, J. Forster j...@quikus.com

Re: [time-nuts] Interesting Clock Project

2012-05-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 05/02/2012 09:28 PM, Chuck Harris wrote: That's what I get too. I would say that someone has substituted the gay black porn music video for the real website... in other words, the DNS has been hacked. Does anyone have the correct IP address (in dot code.)? At least a few snap-shots:

[time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread Jerry Mulchin
I need some guidance from the collective. I just finished rebuilding my PRS10 lab standard and it is now using a M12+T GPS module. I have completed my site survey and it is now in hold position mode, TRAIM is enabled with 500ns alarm setting and the 1PPS is enabled during non-TRAIM alarm

Re: [time-nuts] Interesting Clock Project

2012-05-02 Thread J. Forster
From the pics in the link, that clock was noted here a year or so ago. At that time the link worked for a video of some guys building and updating a 2x4 version of a seven segment display in real lime. -John On 05/02/2012 09:28 PM, Chuck Harris wrote: That's what I get too.

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?

2012-05-02 Thread Marco IK1ODO
The reason may be trivial. Ask the seller, he is a correct person. Anyway, the birthplace and DOB of a person are very easy to obtain on the web - it would be a stupid scam. But knowing the seller, I'm sure it is not. Being a dealer too, you can't believe the number of fiscal rules we have to

Re: [time-nuts] Interesting Clock Project

2012-05-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 05/02/2012 09:44 PM, J. Forster wrote: From the pics in the link, that clock was noted here a year or so ago. At that time the link worked for a video of some guys building and updating a 2x4 version of a seven segment display in real lime. It still did this today when I saw and shared it

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread Azelio Boriani
You don't have a Cs reference but you have a GPS: in the long term it is the same. By using a TIC (your preferred: HP5370B, HP5372A, SR620, PM6680, PM6681, HP53132A, Racal 2351, Yokogawa TA720, PICTIC II, Wavecrest DTS275 [SIA3000?] and others) keep track of the GPS PPS vs. the PRS10 PPS. On Wed,

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 05/02/2012 10:03 PM, Azelio Boriani wrote: You don't have a Cs reference but you have a GPS: in the long term it is the same. By using a TIC (your preferred: HP5370B, HP5372A, SR620, PM6680, PM6681, HP53132A, Racal 2351, Yokogawa TA720, PICTIC II, Wavecrest DTS275 [SIA3000?] and others) keep

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread Azelio Boriani
Magnus, you are correct but can I avoid to list our beloved counters/analyzers? The time-nut main tool is the TIC. Anyway, to correct the PPS input for the PRS10 the hardware approach is a must: so a delay line and a microprocessor are needed. Unless the SRS can develop a suitable software for the

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread bg
Jerry, Magnus, Considering the M12+T PPS noise, you won't need anything stellar. A PICTIC II will do just fine... or if you trust the PRS-10 readings, run from that. What would make this better would to use a sawtooth-correction to PPS delay setup, as the PRS-10 measurement resolution will

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Azelio, On 05/02/2012 10:30 PM, Azelio Boriani wrote: Magnus, you are correct but can I avoid to list our beloved counters/analyzers? The time-nut main tool is the TIC. Hehe, yes. But you can do great things even with a spare HP5335A for instance. It's quite respectable with about 1 ns

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?

2012-05-02 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Marco, I disagree. This is personal information and is restricted by data protection law in the EU. It is commonly used for financial activity identity checks. I would never give this information to an unknown third party. As an aside, Italy has the greatest lost parcel rate of any country I

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread Tom Knox
I cannot believe my Guidetech GT4000 was left off your list. Thomas Knox Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 22:11:25 +0200 From: mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS On 05/02/2012 10:03 PM, Azelio Boriani wrote: You don't have

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread Azelio Boriani
The phase of the PPSOUT and the generated 10 MHz will probably not align up, something which is critical to some applications. Yes, for example the DVB-T SFN requires the PPS and 10MHz phases to be aligned, better, not to move. This requires to slightly alter the 10MHz to keep the PPS aligned.

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread Azelio Boriani
I'm so sorry for the inconvenience but I wasn't aware of this CTIA supreme piece of test equipment... now I know. This CTIA is mainly intended for very high speed serial interconnect and Gigabit ethernet test. On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:18 PM, Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com wrote: I cannot believe

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
Björn, On 05/02/2012 10:54 PM, b...@lysator.liu.se wrote: Jerry, Magnus, Considering the M12+T PPS noise, you won't need anything stellar. A PICTIC II will do just fine... or if you trust the PRS-10 readings, run from that. What would make this better would to use a sawtooth-correction to

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Azelio, On 05/02/2012 11:19 PM, Azelio Boriani wrote: The phase of the PPSOUT and the generated 10 MHz will probably not align up,something which is critical to some applications. Yes, for example the DVB-T SFN requires the PPS and 10MHz phases to be aligned, better, not to move. This

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread bg
The phase of the PPSOUT and the generated 10 MHz will probably not align up, something which is critical to some applications. Yes, for example the DVB-T SFN requires the PPS and 10MHz phases to be aligned, better, not to move. This requires to slightly alter the 10MHz to keep the PPS aligned.

[time-nuts] HP 5334A battery

2012-05-02 Thread iov...@inwind.it
Hi all, I have to replace the memory back-up battery on a 5334a counter. Today I've found it leaked causing some corrosion on the pcb. Does anybody know what kind of battery is it? I don't have the service manual. Thanks, Antonio I8IOV ___ time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5334A battery

2012-05-02 Thread Azelio Boriani
Try this http://www.ko4bb.com/Manuals/HP_Agilent/HP_5334_Universal_Counter/HP_5334B_Service_Manual_Nov-1991.pdf On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:51 PM, iov...@inwind.it iov...@inwind.it wrote: Hi all, I have to replace the memory back-up battery on a 5334a counter. Today I've found it leaked

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread bg
Hi Magnus, |---| | | | PRS10APRS10B | |---PPS IN PPS OUT--PPS IN PPS OUT--| hoping that the font doesn't mess up the

Re: [time-nuts] Anyone from Italy here ?

2012-05-02 Thread J. Forster
Privacy protection laws are a sham. Another example of out of control Eurocrats. The laws really offer only the illusion of protection. The servers for any web site can be in Korea or Gurnsey or a Caribean Island where there is no law at all. Furthermore, the only reason someone would ever get

[time-nuts] R: Re: HP 5334A battery

2012-05-02 Thread iov...@inwind.it
Already done. The 5334B doesn't have any back-up battery. My counter is the 5334A. Thanks azelio.boriani wrote Try this http://www.ko4bb. com/Manuals/HP_Agilent/HP_5334_Universal_Counter/HP_5334B_Service_Manual_Nov- 1991.pdf On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 11:51 PM, iov...@inwind.it

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Björn, On 05/03/2012 12:01 AM, b...@lysator.liu.se wrote: Hi Magnus, |---| | | | PRS10APRS10B | |---PPS IN PPS

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread Azelio Boriani
Yes, all made clear. Trigger on Ch.4, I see. You have written green: 10MHz PRS10B but it must be A, otherwise it seems that the PPS and the 10MHz of the PRS10 are not phase aligned. Moreover, the PRS10B seems to track the PRS10A with some delay as the 10MHz from A spreads on more than 5nS (useful,

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread bg
Magnus, Tbolt PRS10A PRS10B 1pps --PPSIN PPSOUT -- PPS IN PRS10A slowly following the Tbolt (PRS10A PT8) PRS10B quickly following the PRS10A (PRS10B PT0) Ok? Yes, but if this is a free-running thunderbolt (I think you said something about that) then PT8

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread Pete Lancashire
Or my E1740A :-) On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com wrote: I cannot believe my Guidetech GT4000 was left off your list. Thomas Knox Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 22:11:25 +0200 From: mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Setting

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread Azelio Boriani
Yes, the E1740A it is a VXI plug-in like the Racal 2351. I have the Racal and the VXI C-size small mainframe E1421B. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Pete Lancashire p...@petelancashire.comwrote: Or my E1740A :-) On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com wrote: I cannot

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread bg
Yes, all made clear. Trigger on Ch.4, I see. You have written green: 10MHz PRS10B but it must be A, otherwise it seems that the PPS and the 10MHz of the PRS10 are not phase aligned. Moreover, the PRS10B seems to track the PRS10A with some delay as the 10MHz from A spreads on more than 5nS

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Björn, On 05/02/2012 11:50 PM, b...@lysator.liu.se wrote: The phase of the PPSOUT and the generated 10 MHz will probably not align up,something which is critical to some applications. Yes, for example the DVB-T SFN requires the PPS and 10MHz phases to be aligned, better, not to move. This

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread Azelio Boriani
Maybe the 10MHz and the PPS are not exactly aligned but you can see that the persistance of the 10MHzB (blue trace) is exactly the same of the PPS B (red trace), so they are absolutely consistent and perfectly linked together. On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 12:42 AM, b...@lysator.liu.se wrote: Yes,

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
Björn, On 05/03/2012 12:30 AM, b...@lysator.liu.se wrote: Magnus, Tbolt PRS10A PRS10B 1pps -- PPSIN PPSOUT -- PPS IN PRS10A slowly following the Tbolt (PRS10A PT8) PRS10B quickly following the PRS10A (PRS10B PT0) Ok? Yes, but if this is a free-running

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
Björn, On 05/03/2012 12:42 AM, b...@lysator.liu.se wrote: Yes, all made clear. Trigger on Ch.4, I see. You have written green: 10MHz PRS10B but it must be A, otherwise it seems that the PPS and the 10MHz of the PRS10 are not phase aligned. Moreover, the PRS10B seems to track the PRS10A with

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread bg
Björn, On 05/03/2012 12:30 AM, b...@lysator.liu.se wrote: Magnus, Tbolt PRS10A PRS10B 1pps -- PPSIN PPSOUT -- PPS IN PRS10A slowly following the Tbolt (PRS10A PT8) PRS10B quickly following the PRS10A (PRS10B PT0) Ok? Yes, but if this is a free-running

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 05/03/2012 01:09 AM, b...@lysator.liu.se wrote: Björn, On 05/03/2012 12:30 AM, b...@lysator.liu.se wrote: Magnus, Tbolt PRS10A PRS10B 1pps -- PPSIN PPSOUT --PPS IN PRS10A slowly following the Tbolt (PRS10A PT8) PRS10B quickly following the PRS10A

Re: [time-nuts] Setting up PRS10 with M12+T GPS

2012-05-02 Thread Mike S
On 5/2/2012 5:18 PM, Tom Knox wrote: I cannot believe my Guidetech GT4000 was left off your list. No worries. He didn't list the HP 5370A, either. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] R: Re: HP 5334A battery

2012-05-02 Thread Alan Hochhalter
My 5334A Service Manual for SERIAL NUMBER PREFIX: 2426A lists the following battery; Reference Designation - BT1 HP Part Number - 1420-0268 Description - Battery 3.6V .065A-HR NI-CD Mfr Code - 28480 (which is Hewlett-Packard) Mfr Part Number - 1420-0268 I haven't opened my unit up to make any

[time-nuts] Motorola ONCORE M12+T timing gps reciever manual and schematic

2012-05-02 Thread Ken Kubick
Hi, Time-Nuts guys does anyone have a manual and connection diagram for a Motorola ONCORE M12+T timing gps reciever. I am considering buying one and I need to know a little more about them. Thankyou Ken Kubick kenkub...@hotmail.com

Re: [time-nuts] Motorola ONCORE M12+T timing gps reciever manual and schematic

2012-05-02 Thread Chris Albertson
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Ken Kubick kenkub...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, Time-Nuts guys does anyone have a manual and connection diagram for a Motorola ONCORE M12+T timing gps reciever. Google found this one: http://www.cnssys.com/files/M12+UsersGuide.pdf -- Chris Albertson Redondo