[time-nuts] Time-nuts question on message size??? 119KB vs 165KB
Trying to keep the message and attachements below the 128KB limit. I send a 119KB message and it gets held as a 165KB message. Can someone help me to understand the difference please? Thanks Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Time-nuts question on message size??? 119KB vs 165KB
paulsw...@gmail.com said: Trying to keep the message and attachements below the 128KB limit. I send a 119KB message and it gets held as a 165KB message. Can someone help me to understand the difference please? My guess would be base64 encoding? For binary files, you only get 6 bits per (text) byte rather than all 8. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Time-nuts question on message size??? 119KB vs 165KB
Thanks Hal Yes I sent the same email to my business account and could see it was 148KB. Gmail does not give you email size cause they sell storage. So they make it hard to manage your folders and the sizes. I did use thunderbird for a bit and may need to go back to that. It did however tend to clear stuff out I did not want deleted. Need to re-explore it. Regards Paul. On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 1:43 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: paulsw...@gmail.com said: Trying to keep the message and attachements below the 128KB limit. I send a 119KB message and it gets held as a 165KB message. Can someone help me to understand the difference please? My guess would be base64 encoding? For binary files, you only get 6 bits per (text) byte rather than all 8. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Time-nuts question on message size??? 119KB vs 165KB
Paul, Your expectation works for text attachments. But binary attachments (e.g., jpg) expand about 33%. That's 8/6, or log2(256)/log2(64), due to base64 encoding of 8-bit bytes. In general, large attachments on this list are ok. It's just that when they are above 128k they are temporarily held for manual review. I let most of them go through with little delay. /tvb (i5s) On Jul 11, 2014, at 9:21 AM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: Trying to keep the message and attachements below the 128KB limit. I send a 119KB message and it gets held as a 165KB message. Can someone help me to understand the difference please? Thanks Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Time-nuts question on message size??? 119KB vs 165KB
Hi There are *some* mail outfits that will reject anything over 64K bytes. I have not had to deal with any for a while, but they are still out there. How they continue to operate with those sort of limits, I have no idea. Bob On Jul 11, 2014, at 3:49 PM, Tom Van Baak (lab) t...@leapsecond.com wrote: Paul, Your expectation works for text attachments. But binary attachments (e.g., jpg) expand about 33%. That's 8/6, or log2(256)/log2(64), due to base64 encoding of 8-bit bytes. In general, large attachments on this list are ok. It's just that when they are above 128k they are temporarily held for manual review. I let most of them go through with little delay. /tvb (i5s) On Jul 11, 2014, at 9:21 AM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: Trying to keep the message and attachements below the 128KB limit. I send a 119KB message and it gets held as a 165KB message. Can someone help me to understand the difference please? Thanks Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] Time-nuts question on message size??? 119KB vs 165KB
Thanks Tom and Hal I was trying to understand what the change was and now I know the pix get bigger. I will keep that in mind for the future. Regards Paul. On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Tom Van Baak (lab) t...@leapsecond.com wrote: Paul, Your expectation works for text attachments. But binary attachments (e.g., jpg) expand about 33%. That's 8/6, or log2(256)/log2(64), due to base64 encoding of 8-bit bytes. In general, large attachments on this list are ok. It's just that when they are above 128k they are temporarily held for manual review. I let most of them go through with little delay. /tvb (i5s) On Jul 11, 2014, at 9:21 AM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: Trying to keep the message and attachements below the 128KB limit. I send a 119KB message and it gets held as a 165KB message. Can someone help me to understand the difference please? Thanks Paul WB8TSL ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
