Re: [time-nuts] Special connector for Symmetricom X72 rubidium standard

2017-08-23 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 14:56:20 + Mark Sims wrote: > RDR Electronics has SA22's for not much more than the X72. > The problem with SA22's is the connector. It is a dual row 18 pin > connector with 2mm pitch. At least you can get 2mm header pins quite easily. But yes, I

Re: [time-nuts] Special connector for Symmetricom X72 rubidium standard

2017-08-21 Thread Ed Palmer
FYI, a small number of interface boards for the SA22 are available here: www.ebay.com/itm/142461937901 . If you look in the Designer's Reference & User's Guide, it shows the adapter board with and without the heat sink. It has the same connector as the X72, but you don't have to use it!

Re: [time-nuts] Special connector for Symmetricom X72 rubidium standard

2017-08-21 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi A lot of the OEM’s seem to be going with a large multi layer PCB as the “heatsink” for the lightweight Rb’s. Apparently they have enough airflow through their racks that this works ok for them. In that case, I think I’d prefer some sort of “cheap” SMD PC mount connector. Faster to

Re: [time-nuts] Special connector for Symmetricom X72 rubidium standard

2017-08-21 Thread Christoph Kopetzky
Hello Ed, No I do not want to use a printer cable to connect to the X72 oscillator. This is not recommendable as you wrote for several reasons. I would prefer a solution which uses an actual connector which could replace the obsolete Molex 52660-2651 plug. This is very difficult because every

Re: [time-nuts] Special connector for Symmetricom X72 rubidium standard

2017-08-20 Thread Attila Kinali
On Sun, 20 Aug 2017 16:22:18 + Mark Sims wrote: > It can also be used with the SA22.c once a board that breaks out the SA22 > connector pinouts to a 34 pin cable (8 pins are for the SA22.c +5V power/ > gnd) is built. Note the TO-220 LM7805 voltage regulator...

Re: [time-nuts] Special connector for Symmetricom X72 rubidium standard

2017-08-18 Thread Ed Palmer
Chris, Are you suggesting reusing the entire cable? I wasn't suggesting that. The cable is over a meter long! Even if the wiring was correct, which it isn't, I don't know if you could pull enough power through those 28 guage wires even though they have multiple leads in parallel. Either

Re: [time-nuts] Special connector for Symmetricom X72 rubidium standard

2017-08-18 Thread Christoph Kopetzky
Hello all, here is the connection schematics from symmetricoms designer manual for the X72. So you see, that there is no need for an25 pin connector on the boards side :) If someone wants to download the X72 designer guide here it is:

Re: [time-nuts] Special connector for Symmetricom X72 rubidium standard

2017-08-17 Thread Ed Palmer
I did some more work on the HP printer cable that uses this connector. Here's what I found: 1. Pin 25 on the X72 connector is unconnected. 2. The connector is IDC. It's possible to open it up and add the extra lead, but like all IDC connectors, it's rather fragile. 3. Of the 25 leads in

Re: [time-nuts] Special connector for Symmetricom X72 rubidium standard

2017-08-17 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi 10 MHz sine output would be pretty high up on my list of “pins to send someplace else …” Bob > On Aug 17, 2017, at 5:36 PM, Mark Sims wrote: > > Cable has a DB-25 on the other end. X72 uses 26 pins. So logically it would > be pin 26 that is missing... 10 MHz sine

Re: [time-nuts] Special connector for Symmetricom X72 rubidium standard

2017-08-17 Thread Attila Kinali
On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 13:05:47 -0600 Ed Palmer wrote: > One source of that connector is an HP C8231A cable for a Deskjet 450. > It's used to connect the printer to a DB-25 parallel port. The connector > fits the X72, but there are only 25 leads in the cable. I haven't

Re: [time-nuts] Special connector for Symmetricom X72 rubidium standard

2017-08-17 Thread Ed Palmer
Chris, One source of that connector is an HP C8231A cable for a Deskjet 450. It's used to connect the printer to a DB-25 parallel port. The connector fits the X72, but there are only 25 leads in the cable. I haven't tried to use it so I don't know if the missing lead is important or not.

Re: [time-nuts] Special connector for Symmetricom X72 rubidium standard

2017-08-17 Thread Christopher Hoover
I'm interested in a piece or two if you do this. Happy to review schematics and layout, too. -- Christopher AI6KG On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 8:28 AM, Mark Sims wrote: > Symmetricom sold some interface boards for the X72. They are 0.32-ish > inch thick PCB's with a dual

Re: [time-nuts] Special connector for Symmetricom X72 rubidium standard

2017-08-16 Thread Christoph Kopetzky
Hello Attila, I found one manufacturer which has nearly similar connectors in his program: htk-jp.com They have SDR and HDR connectors on stock but all of them do have 0.8 mm pitch. The original Molex 52660-2651 connector has 1.0 mm pitch so that would not fit... Am 16.08.2017 um 13:05

Re: [time-nuts] Special connector for Symmetricom X72 rubidium standard

2017-08-16 Thread Attila Kinali
Re-moin, On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 14:01:02 +0200 Christoph Kopetzky wrote: > I found one manufacturer which has nearly similar connectors in his > program: htk-jp.com > They have SDR and HDR connectors on stock but all of them do have 0.8 mm > pitch. The > original Molex 52660-2651

Re: [time-nuts] Special connector for Symmetricom X72 rubidium standard

2017-08-16 Thread Attila Kinali
Moin, On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 15:15:16 +0200 Christoph Kopetzky wrote: > I am looking without any success for some Molex plugs (52660-2651) to > connect to my X72 time standard. > Molex told me that these connectors are obolete since 2010. > I made some recherches at the Molex

Re: [time-nuts] Special connector for Symmetricom X72 rubidium standard

2017-08-16 Thread Christoph Kopetzky
Hello Mark, thanks for your info. Does your actual version 5.0 also support the X72 rubidium oscillator? And if not could you please send me your modified version for the X72? Thank you in advance and kind Regards Chris Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2017 15:15:16 +0200 From: Christoph Kopetzky