Re: [time-nuts] VK4GHZ Thunderbolt Monitor and Commander
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Sam li...@digitalelectric.com.au wrote: Netduino is the Arduino with an Ethernet interface on it. Not quite, The Netduino is an open-source platform using the .NET Micro Framework. Looks like you a right. To many things with name almost the same. There are Arduinos with built-in Ethernet shields. That is what I meant. My plan is to borrow some code from the NTP Palisades driver and first build a Thuderbolt library for Arduino I'd be concerned that anything related to .net would forever tie you to Microsoft. But in both cases the big things are that you don't need to build a PCB or distribute programmed chips and using Ethernet means you can see it from a web browser using a computer or phone Is the development system for netduino cross platform? - Original Message - From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement [mailto:time-nuts@febo.com] Sent: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:22:49 +1100 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] VK4GHZ Thunderbolt Monitor and Commander On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Sam li...@digitalelectric.com.au wrote: I have known about this project for a while, I was excited at first but was put off by the price tag, the fact that it is closed source and that it's not available as a kit. There is another project on the horizon by James M1DST that is based on the Netduino platform which will be open source. Why does everyone think alike? This describes what I want to do also. Netduino is the Arduino with an Ethernet interface on it. It makes a good platform for this because there is no need to make a PCB or distribute a kit. The Arduino already has all the required connectors. Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] VK4GHZ Thunderbolt Monitor and Commander
Is the development system for netduino cross platform? Yes although not as strait forward as using Windows. A quote from one of the Netduino developers says: While we work out MonoDevelop IDE integration, we've created a Netduino C# bootloader which will allow you to manually compile your C# source on Mac/Linux...and then deploy your Netduino app via MicroSD card. My plan was to borrow code from the C# adaptation by Dan Quigley N7HQ of some Lady Heather code, before discovering that M1DST had a working example running already. I'm really looking forward to the day I can have a Netduino with Ethernet port and 4x20 OLED or VFD display on the front of my 2RU case that houses my Nortel/Trimble NTGS50AA. Ideally it would feature: NTP compatible time server. Log a Lady Heather compatible file to the on-board MicroSD card. RFC 2217 remote serial port over TCP. Web interface. Sam. - Original Message - From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement [mailto:time-nuts@febo.com] Sent: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:58:18 +1100 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] VK4GHZ Thunderbolt Monitor and Commander On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Sam li...@digitalelectric.com.au wrote: Netduino is the Arduino with an Ethernet interface on it. Not quite, The Netduino is an open-source platform using the .NET Micro Framework. Looks like you a right. To many things with name almost the same. There are Arduinos with built-in Ethernet shields. That is what I meant. My plan is to borrow some code from the NTP Palisades driver and first build a Thuderbolt library for Arduino I'd be concerned that anything related to .net would forever tie you to Microsoft. But in both cases the big things are that you don't need to build a PCB or distribute programmed chips and using Ethernet means you can see it from a web browser using a computer or phone Is the development system for netduino cross platform? - Original Message - From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement [mailto:time-nuts@febo.com] Sent: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:22:49 +1100 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] VK4GHZ Thunderbolt Monitor and Commander On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Sam li...@digitalelectric.com.au wrote: I have known about this project for a while, I was excited at first but was put off by the price tag, the fact that it is closed source and that it's not available as a kit. There is another project on the horizon by James M1DST that is based on the Netduino platform which will be open source. Why does everyone think alike? This describes what I want to do also. Netduino is the Arduino with an Ethernet interface on it. It makes a good platform for this because there is no need to make a PCB or distribute a kit. The Arduino already has all the required connectors. Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] VK4GHZ Thunderbolt Monitor and Commander
The authorized development platform is windows only. It will run under wine. There is a linux/opensource platform in the works based on mono. It is in pre alpha release. In the opensource, linux world, mono is seen as an abomination by many. Although mono has made it through the international standards groups, Microsoft holds several patents on key parts of the system that would allow them to yank the rug out from under anyone they wanted to at will. They refuse to release the patents into the public domain, instead insisting that they would never sue anyone for using them... all the while holding them all the same. I wouldn't touch mono, or a netduino with a ten foot pole! Use the arduino, it too has shields that put it on the ethernet. -Chuck Harris Chris Albertson wrote: On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Samli...@digitalelectric.com.au wrote: Netduino is the Arduino with an Ethernet interface on it. Not quite, The Netduino is an open-source platform using the .NET Micro Framework. Looks like you a right. To many things with name almost the same. There are Arduinos with built-in Ethernet shields. That is what I meant. My plan is to borrow some code from the NTP Palisades driver and first build a Thuderbolt library for Arduino I'd be concerned that anything related to .net would forever tie you to Microsoft. But in both cases the big things are that you don't need to build a PCB or distribute programmed chips and using Ethernet means you can see it from a web browser using a computer or phone Is the development system for netduino cross platform? ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] VK4GHZ Thunderbolt Monitor and Commander
The raspberry pi linux ARM will be available RealSoon Now; about the size of an Arduino and $35 US. Don Sam Is the development system for netduino cross platform? Yes although not as strait forward as using Windows. A quote from one of the Netduino developers says: While we work out MonoDevelop IDE integration, we've created a Netduino C# bootloader which will allow you to manually compile your C# source on Mac/Linux...and then deploy your Netduino app via MicroSD card. My plan was to borrow code from the C# adaptation by Dan Quigley N7HQ of some Lady Heather code, before discovering that M1DST had a working example running already. I'm really looking forward to the day I can have a Netduino with Ethernet port and 4x20 OLED or VFD display on the front of my 2RU case that houses my Nortel/Trimble NTGS50AA. Ideally it would feature: NTP compatible time server. Log a Lady Heather compatible file to the on-board MicroSD card. RFC 2217 remote serial port over TCP. Web interface. Sam. - Original Message - From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement [mailto:time-nuts@febo.com] Sent: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 17:58:18 +1100 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] VK4GHZ Thunderbolt Monitor and Commander On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Sam li...@digitalelectric.com.au wrote: Netduino is the Arduino with an Ethernet interface on it. Not quite, The Netduino is an open-source platform using the .NET Micro Framework. Looks like you a right. To many things with name almost the same. There are Arduinos with built-in Ethernet shields. That is what I meant. My plan is to borrow some code from the NTP Palisades driver and first build a Thuderbolt library for Arduino I'd be concerned that anything related to .net would forever tie you to Microsoft. But in both cases the big things are that you don't need to build a PCB or distribute programmed chips and using Ethernet means you can see it from a web browser using a computer or phone Is the development system for netduino cross platform? - Original Message - From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement [mailto:time-nuts@febo.com] Sent: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:22:49 +1100 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] VK4GHZ Thunderbolt Monitor and Commander On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Sam li...@digitalelectric.com.au wrote: I have known about this project for a while, I was excited at first but was put off by the price tag, the fact that it is closed source and that it's not available as a kit. There is another project on the horizon by James M1DST that is based on the Netduino platform which will be open source. Why does everyone think alike? This describes what I want to do also. Netduino is the Arduino with an Ethernet interface on it. It makes a good platform for this because there is no need to make a PCB or distribute a kit. The Arduino already has all the required connectors. Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Neither the voice of authority nor the weight of reason and argument are as significant as experiment, for thence comes quiet to the mind. R. Bacon If you don't know what it is, don't poke it. Ghost in the Shell Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL Six Mile Systems LLP 17850 Six Mile Road POB 134 Huson, MT, 59846 VOX 406-626-4304 www.lightningforensics.com www.sixmilesystems.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] VK4GHZ Thunderbolt Monitor and Commander
One has to go through their sign-up process just to take a look. On 2/27/2012 10:20 PM, James Robbins wrote: Just wanted to mention a terrific Thunderbolt Monitor design by VK4GHZ Adam Maurer (http://www.vklogger.com/forum). It monitors the Thunderbolt output on 4 screens (4x20 display) so no computer hookup is necessary to follow the GPS. A companion Commander makes use of a PICAXE to cause the Thunderbolt to initiate various functions such as a survey or change from 3D to over determined, among others. Adam sells the Monitor unit assembled and tested, while the Commander is easily home brewed. He's done a great job. Jim Robbins N1JR ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4836 - Release Date: 02/27/12 ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] VK4GHZ Thunderbolt Monitor and Commander
That doesn't seem to be the case on this side of the pond. I could read anything posted, just cannot post without signing up. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: Peter Gottlieb n...@verizon.net Sent: Feb 27, 2012 8:26 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] VK4GHZ Thunderbolt Monitor and Commander One has to go through their sign-up process just to take a look. On 2/27/2012 10:20 PM, James Robbins wrote: Just wanted to mention a terrific Thunderbolt Monitor design by VK4GHZ Adam Maurer (http://www.vklogger.com/forum). It monitors the Thunderbolt output on 4 screens (4x20 display) so no computer hookup is necessary to follow the GPS. A companion Commander makes use of a PICAXE to cause the Thunderbolt to initiate various functions such as a survey or change from 3D to over determined, among others. Adam sells the Monitor unit assembled and tested, while the Commander is easily home brewed. He's done a great job. Jim Robbins N1JR ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4836 - Release Date: 02/27/12 ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] VK4GHZ Thunderbolt Monitor and Commander
I'm (slowly) working on one based on Arduino. No plan to use anything like four screens. I think the way to go is one but with a rotary knob so you can scroll and click the knob to make menu selections. But then for even less cost you can make it web based. You save the cost and size of the display and control it with an iPhone or the like. On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 7:20 PM, James Robbins jsrobb...@earthlink.net wrote: Just wanted to mention a terrific Thunderbolt Monitor design by VK4GHZ Adam Maurer (http://www.vklogger.com/forum). It monitors the Thunderbolt output on 4 screens (4x20 display) so no computer hookup is necessary to follow the GPS. A companion Commander makes use of a PICAXE to cause the Thunderbolt to initiate various functions such as a survey or change from 3D to over determined, among others. Adam sells the Monitor unit assembled and tested, while the Commander is easily home brewed. He's done a great job. Jim Robbins N1JR ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] VK4GHZ Thunderbolt Monitor and Commander
I have known about this project for a while, I was excited at first but was put off by the price tag, the fact that it is closed source and that it's not available as a kit. There is another project on the horizon by James M1DST that is based on the Netduino platform which will be open source. http://m1dst.co.uk/ I have spoke to James via Email and the project is further ahead than what is published on his site. Direct links for the VK4GHZ Thunderbolt Display. http://www.vklogger.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71t=10282 http://www.vklogger.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71t=10277 Sam. - Original Message - From: Peter Gottlieb [mailto:n...@verizon.net] To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 14:26:09 +1100 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] VK4GHZ Thunderbolt Monitor and Commander One has to go through their sign-up process just to take a look. On 2/27/2012 10:20 PM, James Robbins wrote: Just wanted to mention a terrific Thunderbolt Monitor design by VK4GHZ Adam Maurer (http://www.vklogger.com/forum). It monitors the Thunderbolt output on 4 screens (4x20 display) so no computer hookup is necessary to follow the GPS. A companion Commander makes use of a PICAXE to cause the Thunderbolt to initiate various functions such as a survey or change from 3D to over determined, among others. Adam sells the Monitor unit assembled and tested, while the Commander is easily home brewed. He's done a great job. Jim Robbins N1JR ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2113/4836 - Release Date: 02/27/12 ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] VK4GHZ Thunderbolt Monitor and Commander
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Sam li...@digitalelectric.com.au wrote: I have known about this project for a while, I was excited at first but was put off by the price tag, the fact that it is closed source and that it's not available as a kit. There is another project on the horizon by James M1DST that is based on the Netduino platform which will be open source. Why does everyone think alike? This describes what I want to do also. Netduino is the Arduino with an Ethernet interface on it. It makes a good platform for this because there is no need to make a PCB or distribute a kit. The Arduino already has all the required connectors. Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] VK4GHZ Thunderbolt Monitor and Commander
Netduino is the Arduino with an Ethernet interface on it. Not quite, The Netduino is an open-source platform using the .NET Micro Framework. http://www.netduino.com The Netduino Plus shield has on-board Ethernet. http://www.netduino.com/netduinoplus/ Sam - Original Message - From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement [mailto:time-nuts@febo.com] Sent: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 15:22:49 +1100 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] VK4GHZ Thunderbolt Monitor and Commander On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Sam li...@digitalelectric.com.au wrote: I have known about this project for a while, I was excited at first but was put off by the price tag, the fact that it is closed source and that it's not available as a kit. There is another project on the horizon by James M1DST that is based on the Netduino platform which will be open source. Why does everyone think alike? This describes what I want to do also. Netduino is the Arduino with an Ethernet interface on it. It makes a good platform for this because there is no need to make a PCB or distribute a kit. The Arduino already has all the required connectors. Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
Re: [time-nuts] VK4GHZ Thunderbolt Monitor and Commander
Gosh, and I just bought one from Sparkfun for another project :-) Don Chris Albertson On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:04 PM, Sam li...@digitalelectric.com.au wrote: I have known about this project for a while, I was excited at first but was put off by the price tag, the fact that it is closed source and that it's not available as a kit. There is another project on the horizon by James M1DST that is based on the Netduino platform which will be open source. Why does everyone think alike? This describes what I want to do also. Netduino is the Arduino with an Ethernet interface on it. It makes a good platform for this because there is no need to make a PCB or distribute a kit. The Arduino already has all the required connectors. Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there. -- Neither the voice of authority nor the weight of reason and argument are as significant as experiment, for thence comes quiet to the mind. R. Bacon If you don't know what it is, don't poke it. Ghost in the Shell Dr. Don Latham AJ7LL Six Mile Systems LLP 17850 Six Mile Road POB 134 Huson, MT, 59846 VOX 406-626-4304 www.lightningforensics.com www.sixmilesystems.com ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.
