Re: [tips] Can you say chiropractic is bunk?

2010-04-15 Thread Allen Esterson
?Can you say chiropractic is bunk? In Britain, I mean. As a result of a decision recently handed down, it's again ok to say it is. But you'd better have $300,000 and at least two years to defend yourself against libel, just in case. No you won't. Once a precedent is set no one would bring such a

Re: [tips] Can you say chiropractic is bunk?

2010-04-15 Thread Allen Esterson
?A follow-up to my previous posting. This is an article published *before* the recent appeal court judgement in favour of the science writer Simon Singh: Furious backlash from Simon Singh libel case puts chiropractors on ropes One in four chiropractors in Britain are under investigation as a

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread John Kulig
I was the rogue in our department who stopped using SPSS, not just for classes but for my own data as well. With students I use MINITAB which more common in statistics texts written by statisticians. It's output is crisper and more succinct, more affordable, and while its interface has the

Re:[tips] Statistics Textbook

2010-04-15 Thread jmicha5059
Hello All, I use Aron, Aron et al. for the textbook. It is extremely thorough and takes everything step by step. It includes a study guide/workbook that includes PASW/SPSS. However, I noticed that statistics requires some interactive models that demonstrate concepts and animates the

RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Helweg-Larsen, Marie
We require SPSS to be taught in our psychology stats course for several reasons (in no particular order): -the basic stats class is a prerequisite for the 2 required advanced research methods courses in which they will use SPSS -it is the program that faculty use in their own research and

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread roig-reardon
Hi Bob, I have also raised this question in our case and have often wondered whether  our students would be better served by learning stats using, for example, Excel, a program that they are more likely to come across in the work place.  The use of SPSS in our stats lab (1 credit course to

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread John Kulig
Marie et al Not that I want to pitch MINITAB commercially, but I am always amazed at preconceptions. MINITAB has cronbach's alpha factor analysis under Multivariate stats, multiple R, binary ordinal logistic regressions under Regression, all anova options, etc. I would find it amazing if

RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Helweg-Larsen, Marie
John et al Do any of you know how widely MINITAB is used in graduate school? It seems important to teach students software packages that they will use/encounter/be expected to know in graduate school. I've only ever encountered SAS and SPSS in grad programs. Marie PS. This is what it says

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread John Kulig
Marie Great question, I don't know. I will try to find out . but I KNOW SPSS will be at the top of the list ... John K == John W. Kulig Professor of Psychology Plymouth State University Plymouth NH 03264

RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Annette Taylor
The Cozby text used to be put out by Mayfield Publishing; one of those family owned publishing houses; but they were swallowed up by the big boys. I like the Cozby text because when I first starting teaching RM there were very few ancillaries available with any text. This was the first text I

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Jim Clark
Hi I haven't used minitab for teaching (or any other purpose) for many years. One of the things I liked about it for teaching was the ease of implementing formula because it allowed you to create constants from your computations and use those in other operations. Some operators and functions

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Paul Bernhardt
I believe exposing students to some sophisticated statistical package prepares them to encounter it in graduate school. I expect that any student admitted to a thesis-oriented Masters or doctoral program will have the ability to learn some other statistical package, and this exposure helps them

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Mike Palij
To start with, this is what I use in my course: Research Methods: Bordens Abbott's Research Design and Methods (soon to be in 8th edition). It is it broad in its coverage of methods, design, as well as having a three chapters on statistics (one on descriptive, one on inferential, and one on

RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Helweg-Larsen, Marie
I agree with you that SPSS expensive. However, we are not considering looking for other packages because we feel it is essential to what we do (in our own research, in our classes, and in preparing students for grad school) and because sociology and anthropology also use SPSS (in their classes

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Gerald Peterson
I had always thought the national ave. was around 15% of undergrads go on to psych grad programs...or at least try. We have about 19%. Maybe there are more due to economy? I would like to know if this has changed. Many more do go on to some grad/prof. program but not psych. Gerald L.

[tips] Fw: Can you say chiropractic is...

2010-04-15 Thread michael sylvester
It is my understanding that the dinosaurs(sp) would not have become extinct if there were chiropractors around. But honestly moving to a more serious issue(a trademark of my intellectual flexibility) more whites see chiropractors than blacks.Noted evidence is that anatomical and functional