Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread John Kulig
in a research situation at a university or an agency that does a great deal of number crunching as part of their research? Original message Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:10:59 + (UTC) From: roig-rear...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive

RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Helweg-Larsen, Marie
in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material A couple of folks have commented on using SPSS in their statistics courses, and that causes me to ask what is the rationale for using SPSS in undergraduate statistics when the vast

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread roig-reardon
: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:38:18 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material A couple of folks have commented on using SPSS in their statistics courses, and that causes me to ask what is the rationale for using SPSS in undergraduate

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread John Kulig
in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material A couple of folks have commented on using SPSS in their statistics courses, and that causes me to ask what is the rationale for using SPSS in undergraduate statistics when the vast

RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Helweg-Larsen, Marie
-Original Message- From: John Kulig [mailto:ku...@mail.plymouth.edu] Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:09 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material Marie et al Not that I want

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread John Kulig
helw...@dickinson.edu To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:36:28 AM Subject: RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material John et al Do any of you know how widely MINITAB is used in graduate school

RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Annette Taylor
) Subject: Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material Yes - Is the Cozby text Paul C. Cozby's Methods in Behavioral Research - McGraw Hill Actually, that's a good question as to what is the best way to teach research methods (and how many sections, etc.). I know that when I

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Jim Clark
. - Original Message - From: Marie Helweg-Larsen helw...@dickinson.edu To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) tips@fsulist.frostburg.edu Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 8:50:42 AM Subject: RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material We require SPSS

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Paul Bernhardt
I believe exposing students to some sophisticated statistical package prepares them to encounter it in graduate school. I expect that any student admitted to a thesis-oriented Masters or doctoral program will have the ability to learn some other statistical package, and this exposure helps them

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Mike Palij
To start with, this is what I use in my course: Research Methods: Bordens Abbott's Research Design and Methods (soon to be in 8th edition). It is it broad in its coverage of methods, design, as well as having a three chapters on statistics (one on descriptive, one on inferential, and one on

RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Helweg-Larsen, Marie
To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material We fight to keep SPSS because upwards of 90% of our graduates continue on with a grad program, and even if it's not a PhD program, they are almost always required to do

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-15 Thread Gerald Peterson
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 11:52:54 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material 90%?? go on to grad school? WOW Even at our private liberal arts college it's only about 20% and we think we are WAY higher than

[tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Michael Smith
Hi all. Can you guys and gilrs who do methods and stats let me know what text books you find best for these courses? Also, is there a good resource for conducting a 1 credit lab that would focus on SPSS techniques? It would be great to get your recomendations. --Mike --- You are currently

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Paul Bernhardt
This is a tough question that we've been discussing for the past year or more. It depends so much on your goals for your RM courses, what kind of preparation you expect your students to have, and where you are trying to take them. There are a lot of good books out there, but there is huge

Re: RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Deborah S Briihl
Park San Diego, CA 92110 tay...@sandiego.edu From: Michael Smith [tipsl...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:15 AM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material Hi all

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Blaine Peden
http://www.spss.com/academic/ This SPSS website has resources for both students and instructors. There are tutorials (short videos) and links to data sets as well as user sites. It is a very nice collection. Blaine Peden --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread roig-reardon
To teach SPSS in Stats lab, I have been using SPSS for Windows Step by Step and I've been generally satisfied with it. However, given all of the resources available on the web, I am thinking of not using a book for this portion of the course. Miguel --- You are currently subscribed to

RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Marc Carter
I know it's not possible in many places, but in a perfect world all psych undergrads would do a year-long, 6-hour-a-week Analysis and Design course. To quote Winer (et al. -- the 3rd, 1991 posthumous edition with Brown Michels): Science is concerned with understanding variability in nature,

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Jim Clark
Hi I've never understood the methods first rationale, and argued strongly about 20 years ago for stats first, which we have had since. My reasoning: 1. difficult to teach some methods concepts without stats (e.g., reliability), and it helps for others (e.g., computing Ms for two randomly

RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Marc Carter
and Chair Department of Psychology College of Arts Sciences Baker University -- -Original Message- From: Jim Clark [mailto:j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca] Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 1:36 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Subject: Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Michael Smith
Jim Clark: I've never understood the methods first rationale, and argued strongly about 20 years ago for stats first, which we have had since Yes...I'm not sure how to go about it. It would seem that, ideally, they would be taught together as I think Marc Carter was arguing. Maybe I can

RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Frantz, Sue
When I had it in college, there were two 4-credit courses: Research Design and Analysis I and II. Talk about a method and the stats that go with it. Move on to the next method and the stats that go with it. And so on. I liked that set up a lot. Sue -- Sue Frantz

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Ken Steele
We had a similar sequence at ASU. The first class focused on non-experimental/correlational research and the second class focused on experimental research designs and analysis. Both classes had a pre-req introductory stat class that was taught in the math department. Success in Research

RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Dr. Bob Wildblood
Marc Carter opined: I know it's not possible in many places, but in a perfect world all psych undergrads would do a year-long, 6-hour-a-week Analysis and Design course. To quote Winer (et al. -- the 3rd, 1991 posthumous edition with Brown Michels): Science is concerned with understanding

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Dr. Bob Wildblood
at a university or an agency that does a great deal of number crunching as part of their research? Original message Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:10:59 + (UTC) From: roig-rear...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material To: Teaching

Re: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread David Hogberg
Bob: Your classmate, Phil Hostetler, PhD from Purdue ca. 1964, referred to him as Ben sub J hat Winer and had nothing but good things to say about his teaching prowess., Just fyi.d PS: Hope all's going well. d On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 9:14 PM, Dr. Bob Wildblood drb...@rcn.com wrote:

RE: [tips] Best Methods, Stats, and Stats Lab Instructive Material

2010-04-14 Thread Jim Clark
Hi Sorry ... no slight was intended ... I just referred to you as representing a group and did not mean to imply that it ONLY worked for you. Take care Jim James M. Clark Professor of Psychology 204-786-9757 204-774-4134 Fax j.cl...@uwinnipeg.ca Frantz, Sue sfra...@highline.edu 14-Apr-10