[tips] A New Movie Rating System
So I’m listening in the background as my 14 year old daughter watches Miley Cyrus in some movie she made a few years ago. She and her handsome boyfriend are having an argument (on the beach at sunset). She really wants to get something resolved but suddenly her boyfriend just grabs her face and gives her a forceful kiss, which, you guessed it, she succumbs to. So, let's see...what does this teach us? Boys: instead of trying to think things through with your girlfriend, just use force Girls: don't expect too much from your boyfriend, just go with it Maybe instead of violence and nudity ratings, there should be some other kind of movie rating system - one that evaluates the subtle messages movies convey to our children. Okay, okay, time to relax, get off my high horse and get back to work. What a fuddy-duddy father I am... Michael A. Britt, Ph.D. mich...@thepsychfiles.com http://www.ThePsychFiles.com Twitter: @mbritt --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=37729 or send a blank email to leave-37729-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] A New Movie Rating System
Extracting lessons from stories is a process fraught with so many difficulties (see Bible). Perhaps one is not intended to take the actions depicted in this movie as models but just as a report of what happened with these two (fictional) people. Even if there is supposed to be a lesson, perhaps it is not the one you drew. Several other equally plausible ones come to mid: Perhaps the lesson is that some thing are not really worth fighting about, so you might as well just kiss. Or, maybe, as the movie goes on, the disagreement comes up again, and so the larger lesson is, just kissing will not make your problems go away; you must deal with them. Or, perhaps it comes up again even though it is not worth really fight about, so the lesson is, sometimes you must accede to your loved one's demands, even though you disagree, because it is more important that you are both happy than it is that you 'win' on this one minor issue. Allow me to introduce you to hermeneutics. :-) Chris ... Christopher D Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 chri...@yorku.ca http://www.yorku.ca/christo On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Michael Britt mich...@thepsychfiles.com wrote: So I’m listening in the background as my 14 year old daughter watches Miley Cyrus in some movie she made a few years ago. She and her handsome boyfriend are having an argument (on the beach at sunset). She really wants to get something resolved but suddenly her boyfriend just grabs her face and gives her a forceful kiss, which, you guessed it, she succumbs to. So, let's see...what does this teach us? Boys: instead of trying to think things through with your girlfriend, just use force Girls: don't expect too much from your boyfriend, just go with it Maybe instead of violence and nudity ratings, there should be some other kind of movie rating system - one that evaluates the subtle messages movies convey to our children. Okay, okay, time to relax, get off my high horse and get back to work. What a fuddy-duddy father I am... Michael A. Britt, Ph.D. mich...@thepsychfiles.com http://www.ThePsychFiles.com Twitter: @mbritt --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: chri...@yorku.ca. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62bd92n=Tl=tipso=37729 or send a blank email to leave-37729-430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62b...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=37731 or send a blank email to leave-37731-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] A New Movie Rating System
Good points Chris. But hermeneutics? On a Monday? Too heavy Michael A. Britt, Ph.D. mich...@thepsychfiles.com http://www.ThePsychFiles.com Twitter: @mbritt On Jul 28, 2014, at 10:15 AM, Christopher Green chri...@yorku.ca wrote: Extracting lessons from stories is a process fraught with so many difficulties (see Bible). Perhaps one is not intended to take the actions depicted in this movie as models but just as a report of what happened with these two (fictional) people. Even if there is supposed to be a lesson, perhaps it is not the one you drew. Several other equally plausible ones come to mid: Perhaps the lesson is that some thing are not really worth fighting about, so you might as well just kiss. Or, maybe, as the movie goes on, the disagreement comes up again, and so the larger lesson is, just kissing will not make your problems go away; you must deal with them. Or, perhaps it comes up again even though it is not worth really fight about, so the lesson is, sometimes you must accede to your loved one's demands, even though you disagree, because it is more important that you are both happy than it is that you 'win' on this one minor issue. Allow me to introduce you to hermeneutics. :-) Chris ... Christopher D Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 chri...@yorku.ca http://www.yorku.ca/christo On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Michael Britt mich...@thepsychfiles.com wrote: So I’m listening in the background as my 14 year old daughter watches Miley Cyrus in some movie she made a few years ago. She and her handsome boyfriend are having an argument (on the beach at sunset). She really wants to get something resolved but suddenly her boyfriend just grabs her face and gives her a forceful kiss, which, you guessed it, she succumbs to. So, let's see...what does this teach us? Boys: instead of trying to think things through with your girlfriend, just use force Girls: don't expect too much from your boyfriend, just go with it Maybe instead of violence and nudity ratings, there should be some other kind of movie rating system - one that evaluates the subtle messages movies convey to our children. Okay, okay, time to relax, get off my high horse and get back to work. What a fuddy-duddy father I am... Michael A. Britt, Ph.D. mich...@thepsychfiles.com http://www.ThePsychFiles.com Twitter: @mbritt --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: chri...@yorku.ca. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62bd92n=Tl=tipso=37729 or send a blank email to leave-37729-430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62b...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: michael.br...@thepsychfiles.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13405.0125141592fa9ededc665c55d9958f69n=Tl=tipso=37731 or send a blank email to leave-37731-13405.0125141592fa9ededc665c55d9958...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=37732 or send a blank email to leave-37732-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
[tips] Roediger On Low Stakes Testing In Course in NYT And Reader Response
Roddy Roediger had an article in the NY Times about a week and a half ago on the effect of regular testing of material that is to be retained for long periods of time, such as what is taught in classes. Tipsters may know of his research on the testing effect or the retrieval practice effect which includes both lab-based and classroom-based settings. The main point of this research is that regular, low stakes testing produces durable, readily accessible memories. Roediger tries to put this into the current context of the role of testing in education. His article can be accessed here: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/20/opinion/sunday/how-tests-make-us-smarter.html Here are some responses to the article that also appeared in the NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/28/opinion/A-Report-Card-on-Standardized-Tests.html?mabReward=RI%3A7 I think that Roediger is trying to provide some useful information to the debate on the role of standardized testing in education and what the policy should be towards high stakes testing. But, as with many public issues, the results may get lost in sturm and drang that accompanies the discussion. -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=37733 or send a blank email to leave-37733-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] A New Movie Rating System
While not exactly what you are looking for, take a look at http://bechdeltest.com A movie passes the test if it has the following 1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it 2. Who talk to each other 3. About something besides a man Deb Deborah Briihl Dept of psych and counseling Valdosta state university dbri...@valdosta.edumailto:dbri...@valdosta.edu ,Sent from my iPad On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Michael Britt mich...@thepsychfiles.commailto:mich...@thepsychfiles.com wrote: So I'm listening in the background as my 14 year old daughter watches Miley Cyrus in some movie she made a few years ago. She and her handsome boyfriend are having an argument (on the beach at sunset). She really wants to get something resolved but suddenly her boyfriend just grabs her face and gives her a forceful kiss, which, you guessed it, she succumbs to. So, let's see...what does this teach us? Boys: instead of trying to think things through with your girlfriend, just use force Girls: don't expect too much from your boyfriend, just go with it Maybe instead of violence and nudity ratings, there should be some other kind of movie rating system - one that evaluates the subtle messages movies convey to our children. Okay, okay, time to relax, get off my high horse and get back to work. What a fuddy-duddy father I am... Michael A. Britt, Ph.D. mich...@thepsychfiles.commailto:mich...@thepsychfiles.com http://www.ThePsychFiles.com Twitter: @mbritt --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: dbri...@valdosta.edumailto:dbri...@valdosta.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13162.50de294b9d4987a3c89b4a5cc4bdea62n=Tl=tipso=37729 or send a blank email to leave-37729-13162.50de294b9d4987a3c89b4a5cc4bde...@fsulist.frostburg.edumailto:leave-37729-13162.50de294b9d4987a3c89b4a5cc4bde...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=37734 or send a blank email to leave-37734-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
[tips] Have You Participated In An Internet Experiment -- Without Informed Consent?
The Facebook research study that caused much negative reaction raised the question of how often Facebook and other websites conducted such research without getting informed consent from the participants. The answer appears to have been given by the founder of the website OkCupid, Christian Rudder who writes: |We noticed recently that people didn't like it when Facebook |experimented with their news feed. Even the FTC is getting |involved. But guess what, everybody: if you use the Internet, |you're the subject of hundreds of experiments at any given time, |on every site. That's how websites work. He then goes on to describe three experiments conducted at the OkCupid's website; he provides this information in a blog entry on the OkCupid website; see: http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/we-experiment-on-human-beings/ The issue of informed consent is never raised. It seems that the owner of a website can do whatever they want if a user agrees to the conditions for using the website. The is the price one pays for the using the website. Ah, the real world! -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=37736 or send a blank email to leave-37736-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
RE: [tips] Have You Participated In An Internet Experiment -- Without Informed Consent?
Consumer researchers have manipulated pricing, packaging, product placement, etc and monitored purchasing patterns for decades, all without informed consent. For internal purposes, why should be expect informed consent for doing what we would have done anyway (shopped for a product - or used a website). I accept the argument that once the research was submitted for publication it should fall under higher scrutiny but under the conditions for waiving consent this study could qualify. Under 45 CFR 46.116 [D] an IRB may waive consent under the following: 1) The research involves no more than minimal risk to the subjects. 2) The waiver or alteration will not adversely affect the rights or welfare of the subjects. 3) The research could not practically be carried out without the waiver or alteration. 4) Whenever appropriate the subjects will be provided with additional pertinent information after participation. Did this study pose no more than minimal risk? No Facebook and others already manipulate information flow on a number of factors I can't see that filtering poses any real risk. Did waiving the consent adversely affect the rights or welfare? This is, I presume, where others will argue their point. Site users have no rights because they accepted the terms and conditions. You don't have to like it but it is true. But what about welfare? Interestingly the results of the study provide the answer to this - the effect sizes are so small that it seems highly unlikely this was the case. Could the study be carried out without a waiver? No. Should they have provided subjects with additional information? Maybe but I can't think of what they would say. Dear Facebook user, over the course of the last week you were a participant that filtered your newsfeed and diminished negative information you may wish to call your aunt Selma whose cat died and console your college roommate's son who broke up with his girlfriend. I think the far greater travesty in this Facebook study of emotion is that while we were all discussing the IRB and ethical issues of the research, we legitimized the idea that Facebook posts reflect actual human emotion. Around my house we call it Famotion (or fake emotion or Facebook emotion). I'm so angry the coffee vendor forgot to add the carmel that I could just scream. I guess when it comes to crying over spilled milk, that is one thing you can do on Facebook and the world will listen. Doug Doug Peterson, PhD Associate Professor of Psychology The University of South Dakota Vermillion SD 57069 605.677.5295 From: Mike Palij [m...@nyu.edu] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 3:13 PM To: Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) Cc: Michael Palij Subject: [tips] Have You Participated In An Internet Experiment -- Without Informed Consent? The Facebook research study that caused much negative reaction raised the question of how often Facebook and other websites conducted such research without getting informed consent from the participants. The answer appears to have been given by the founder of the website OkCupid, Christian Rudder who writes: |We noticed recently that people didn't like it when Facebook |experimented with their news feed. Even the FTC is getting |involved. But guess what, everybody: if you use the Internet, |you're the subject of hundreds of experiments at any given time, |on every site. That's how websites work. He then goes on to describe three experiments conducted at the OkCupid's website; he provides this information in a blog entry on the OkCupid website; see: http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/we-experiment-on-human-beings/ The issue of informed consent is never raised. It seems that the owner of a website can do whatever they want if a user agrees to the conditions for using the website. The is the price one pays for the using the website. Ah, the real world! -Mike Palij New York University m...@nyu.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: doug.peter...@usd.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=12991.6a54289b29ceb58cb7609cc50e0dc1c8n=Tl=tipso=37736 or send a blank email to leave-37736-12991.6a54289b29ceb58cb7609cc50e0dc...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=37737 or send a blank email to leave-37737-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] A New Movie Rating System
Talk about a low common denominator. Just BTW, an interesting (i.e. unfortunate) male student response to the fact that I, as so many other women, enjoyed Nancy Drew mysteries during childhood due to the strength of her character. A young guy guffawed as if this was a laughable so I asked if he ever read the Hardy Boys. Yes, indeed, he had but somehow that was OK whereas talking about reading a book with a female heroine was a source of amusement. Neither series was great literature and, in fact, written by different authors from year to year. But to read a novel about a woman who valued her women friends as much as Ned, as well as showed a courageous and independent spirit was so unique and inspiring. What can I say. Joan jwarm...@oakton.edu While not exactly what you are looking for, take a look at http://bechdeltest.com A movie passes the test if it has the following 1. It has to have at least two [named] women in it 2. Who talk to each other 3. About something besides a man Deb Deborah Briihl Dept of psych and counseling Valdosta state university dbri...@valdosta.edumailto:dbri...@valdosta.edu ,Sent from my iPad On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:58 AM, Michael Britt mich...@thepsychfiles.commailto:mich...@thepsychfiles.com wrote: So I'm listening in the background as my 14 year old daughter watches Miley Cyrus in some movie she made a few years ago. She and her handsome boyfriend are having an argument (on the beach at sunset). She really wants to get something resolved but suddenly her boyfriend just grabs her face and gives her a forceful kiss, which, you guessed it, she succumbs to. So, let's see...what does this teach us? Boys: instead of trying to think things through with your girlfriend, just use force Girls: don't expect too much from your boyfriend, just go with it Maybe instead of violence and nudity ratings, there should be some other kind of movie rating system - one that evaluates the subtle messages movies convey to our children. Okay, okay, time to relax, get off my high horse and get back to work. What a fuddy-duddy father I am... Michael A. Britt, Ph.D. mich...@thepsychfiles.commailto:mich...@thepsychfiles.com http://www.ThePsychFiles.com Twitter: @mbritt --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: dbri...@valdosta.edumailto:dbri...@valdosta.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13162.50de294b9d4987a3c89b4a5cc4bdea62n=Tl=tipso=37729 or send a blank email to leave-37729-13162.50de294b9d4987a3c89b4a5cc4bde...@fsulist.frostburg.edumailto:leave-37729-13162.50de294b9d4987a3c89b4a5cc4bde...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: jwarm...@oakton.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=49240.d374d0c18780e492c3d2e63f91752d0dn=Tl=tipso=37734 or send a blank email to leave-37734-49240.d374d0c18780e492c3d2e63f91752...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=37738 or send a blank email to leave-37738-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] A New Movie Rating System
Appreciated your response Chris. Wish to state this with care but the research on couples discussing issues of conflict conducted by John Gottman has shown that couples do NOT have to agree on everything but, instead, it's important to pick your battles with care. Basically what his empirical research data shows based on years of videotaping couples having heated discussions was that those who make it for the long haul are able to frequently agree to not agree. And here comes the delicate part:women (am guilty) tend to get overly emotional about issues with which their partner does not concur and so, in an attempt to make their (our) point more clear, we get louder and more emotional--an approach that causes men to close down. That is, the more the woman yells, the more the guy uses a strategy Gottman refers to as 'stonewalling.' This doesn't mean the either gender is right or wrong in how they deal with disagreements; that is not the point. The point is simply that certain approaches don't work, period. Of course there are gender exceptions to these patterns but Gottman's advice to couples on how to handle conflict is based on empirical data he gathered from years of observing couples dealing with difficult issues. He got to the point where he could predict in just a few minutes when viewing a video which couples were heading for divorce. Joan jwarm...@oakton.edu Extracting lessons from stories is a process fraught with so many difficulties (see Bible). Perhaps one is not intended to take the actions depicted in this movie as models but just as a report of what happened with these two (fictional) people. Even if there is supposed to be a lesson, perhaps it is not the one you drew. Several other equally plausible ones come to mid: Perhaps the lesson is that some thing are not really worth fighting about, so you might as well just kiss. Or, maybe, as the movie goes on, the disagreement comes up again, and so the larger lesson is, just kissing will not make your problems go away; you must deal with them. Or, perhaps it comes up again even though it is not worth really fight about, so the lesson is, sometimes you must accede to your loved one's demands, even though you disagree, because it is more important that you are both happy than it is that you 'win' on this one minor issue. Allow me to introduce you to hermeneutics. :-) Chris ... Christopher D Green Department of Psychology York University Toronto, ON M3J 1P3 chri...@yorku.ca http://www.yorku.ca/christo On Jul 28, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Michael Britt mich...@thepsychfiles.com wrote: So Iâm listening in the background as my 14 year old daughter watches Miley Cyrus in some movie she made a few years ago. She and her handsome boyfriend are having an argument (on the beach at sunset). She really wants to get something resolved but suddenly her boyfriend just grabs her face and gives her a forceful kiss, which, you guessed it, she succumbs to. So, let's see...what does this teach us? Boys: instead of trying to think things through with your girlfriend, just use force Girls: don't expect too much from your boyfriend, just go with it Maybe instead of violence and nudity ratings, there should be some other kind of movie rating system - one that evaluates the subtle messages movies convey to our children. Okay, okay, time to relax, get off my high horse and get back to work. What a fuddy-duddy father I am... Michael A. Britt, Ph.D. mich...@thepsychfiles.com http://www.ThePsychFiles.com Twitter: @mbritt --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: chri...@yorku.ca. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62bd92n=Tl=tipso=37729 or send a blank email to leave-37729-430248.781165b5ef80a3cd2b14721caf62b...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: jwarm...@oakton.edu. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=49240.d374d0c18780e492c3d2e63f91752d0dn=Tl=tipso=37731 or send a blank email to leave-37731-49240.d374d0c18780e492c3d2e63f91752...@fsulist.frostburg.edu --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5n=Tl=tipso=37739 or send a blank email to leave-37739-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
Re: [tips] Have You Participated In An Internet Experiment -- Without Informed Consent?
On Monday, July 28, 2014 4:42 PM, Douglas Peterson wrote: Consumer researchers have manipulated pricing, packaging, product placement, etc and monitored purchasing patterns for decades, all without informed consent. I readily admit to not knowing enough about the history of consumer research to provide a response to what is said above. However, I would hope that psychologists involved in such research would follow the APA code of ethics, the common rule (subpart A to 45 CFR 46), and discuss with appropriate colleagues about whether their research is ethical and reasonable (to overcome the tendence of minizing the costs of research and exaggerating the benefits). I do know of one instance of business school research that rises to the level of, say, Laud Humphreys' Tearoom Trade and Milgram's obedience studies. It involves a Columbia U business school prof (Frank Flynn) who sent out a letter to 240 restaurants in NYC which complained about an incident of food poisoning. One account of the study (I believe it was never published) is given by the NY Times and here is the reference: Kifner, J. (2001 Sept 8). Scholar sets off gastronomic false alarm. New York Times, 8. Here is a link to the article: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/08/nyregion/scholar-sets-off-gastronomic-false-alarm.html?module=SearchmabReward=relbias%3Aw%2C{%221%22%3A%22RI%3A10%22} The NYT published reader letters in response to the article which may be accessed here: http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/11/opinion/L11EATT.html?module=SearchmabReward=relbias%3Aw%2C{%221%22%3A%22RI%3A10%22} The second letter is by NYU's School of Social Work professor Mary Ann Jones who points out that the social sciences have IRBs to reign in research like this that used active deception (there was no food poisoning involved, the researcher wanted to see how the resteranteurs would respond to a patron's allegation of food poisoning). NOTE: I realize that this case is a gross ethical violation and the Facebook and OkCupid research are not comparable to it but do you really believe that all cyberresearch studies have minor costs and the issue of consent is the only ethical problem? For internal purposes, why should be expect informed consent for doing what we would have done anyway (shopped for a product - or used a website). I think you might want to argue by analogy to institutional research done, say, at universities and similar organizations. But there are ethical considerations here as well. Shouldn't internet companies be held to the same ethical standards in the analysis of their data? I accept the argument that once the research was submitted for publication it should fall under higher scrutiny but under the conditions for waiving consent this study could qualify. Under 45 CFR 46.116 [D] an IRB may waive consent under the following: 1) The research involves no more than minimal risk to the subjects. 2) The waiver or alteration will not adversely affect the rights or welfare of the subjects. 3) The research could not practically be carried out without the waiver or alteration. 4) Whenever appropriate the subjects will be provided with additional pertinent information after participation. As someone who has some experience with memory research (e.g., lexical decision making; list learning, etc.), I could argue that all of the experiments I had conducted/involved with meet the four criteria above. But it would be foolish of me or any other memory researcher to conduct the research without first getting IRB approval (which still required informed consent and debriefing). I think most of the verbal learning research literature could have informed consent waived according to the above criteria but only a foolish researcher would attempt to do the research without getting IRB approval first. Did this study pose no more than minimal risk? No Facebook and others already manipulate information flow on a number of factors I can't see that filtering poses any real risk. Okay. I assume that you will change your position when some horribly unethical study involving Facebook or other social media or website data usage comes to light. Before Milgram did his studies, I think that most psychologists believed that no psychologist would conduct that type of study -- ditto for the Stanford Prison Experiment. But some people will leave the barn door open until, well, you know. Did waiving the consent adversely affect the rights or welfare? This is, I presume, where others will argue their point. Site users have no rights because they accepted the terms and conditions. You don't have to like it but it is true. Rights are ensured by the legal sysem; we do not give them up when we agree to the terms of usage for a website. One could presumably sue Facebook or whoever if they have the time and resources but it may be better to wait for a really atrocious ethical violation to occur -- a violation so obvious that no one needs to have it