RE:[tips] Spot the confounds

2014-06-24 Thread Musselman, Robin
I would think it would be fairly easy to put together a video presentation
using the same person - in the three conditions that Mike describes and
then you could also vary the position of the three twins.

Robin

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Professor
Lehigh Carbon Community College
Schnecksville, PA 18078
phone:  610-799-1531
email: rmussel...@lccc.edu

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Re: [tips] Spot the confounds

2014-06-24 Thread Gerald Peterson
I noticed also that people were milling around while the subject made public 
choices!? Demand character can be added to issues to discuss if showing this in 
class.

 
G.L. (Gary) Peterson,Ph.D
Psychology@SVSU


 On Jun 24, 2014, at 3:12 PM, Musselman, Robin rmussel...@lccc.edu wro
  
 
  
 
 I would think it would be fairly easy to put together a video presentation 
 using the same person - in the three conditions that Mike describes and then 
 you could also vary the position of the three twins.
 
 Robin
 
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 phone:  610-799-1531
 email: rmussel...@lccc.edu
 
 
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[tips] Spot the confounds

2014-06-23 Thread Miguel Roig
I saw this video on FB, http://www.lifebuzz.com/chewing-gum/#!2ytsL, which 
portrays an 'experiment' in which one member of a set of twins chewed gum and 
viewers rated both twins on a variety of traits and characteristics. I thought 
the video might be useful for teaching about confounds, balancing conditions, 
etc.

Miguel
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re: [tips] Spot the confounds

2014-06-23 Thread Mike Palij

On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 06:13:28 -0700, Miguel Roig wrote:
I saw this video on FB, http://www.lifebuzz.com/chewing-gum/#!2ytsL , 
which
portrays an 'experiment' in which one member of a set of twins chewed 
gum and
viewers rated both twins on a variety of traits and characteristics. I 
thought
the video might be useful for teaching about confounds, balancing 
conditions,

etc.


One obvious problem is the control condition used.  Instead of thinking
of the manipulation as being chewing gum vs not chewing gum
consider animacy/activity vs inactivity.  Assuming that people are
more sensitive to animacy/activity than inactivity and that people
may associate a more positive response to activity, then the results
are not surprising.  If I remember correctly, sentences with active 
agents

(animacy) are processed differently from sentences where the agents
in the sentence are not engaged in obvious activity.  In any event,
I think the more proper control is to have the other twin doing 
something

with their face, say, making positive faces (smiling), negative faces
(frowns), and neutral (expressionless like the controls in the video).

So, if we can get triplets, we can have three conditions:
(1) chewing gum
(2) neutral (no facial movement)
(2) different emotional expression

Anybody want to write a grant proposal? ;-)

-Mike Palij
New York University
m...@nyu.edu


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Re: [tips] Spot the confounds

2014-06-23 Thread Gerald Peterson
Thanks Miguel and Mike. Sure is a cluttered page, but it might indeed be useful 
to help students understand confounds and other control issues. I still find 
many of our senior psych students consider any bias or control problem as a 
confound, and I am always looking for ways to help them differentiate these 
problems.

 
G.L. (Gary) Peterson,Ph.D
Psychology@SVSU


 On Jun 23, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Mike Palij m...@nyu.edu wrote:
 
 On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 06:13:28 -0700, Miguel Roig wrote:
 I saw this video on FB, http://www.lifebuzz.com/chewing-gum/#!2ytsL , which
 portrays an 'experiment' in which one member of a set of twins chewed gum and
 viewers rated both twins on a variety of traits and characteristics. I 
 thought
 the video might be useful for teaching about confounds, balancing conditions,
 etc.
 
 One obvious problem is the control condition used.  Instead of thinking
 of the manipulation as being chewing gum vs not chewing gum
 consider animacy/activity vs inactivity.  Assuming that people are
 more sensitive to animacy/activity than inactivity and that people
 may associate a more positive response to activity, then the results
 are not surprising.  If I remember correctly, sentences with active agents
 (animacy) are processed differently from sentences where the agents
 in the sentence are not engaged in obvious activity.  In any event,
 I think the more proper control is to have the other twin doing something
 with their face, say, making positive faces (smiling), negative faces
 (frowns), and neutral (expressionless like the controls in the video).
 
 So, if we can get triplets, we can have three conditions:
 (1) chewing gum
 (2) neutral (no facial movement)
 (2) different emotional expression
 
 Anybody want to write a grant proposal? ;-)
 
 -Mike Palij
 New York University
 m...@nyu.edu
 
 
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Re: [tips] Spot the confounds

2014-06-23 Thread Reaves, Celia (Psychology)
With regards to the twins and gum chewing, I agree that animacy/stasis is a big 
factor. The one not chewing gum often looks like a zombie. Another, probably 
smaller factor: the one chewing gum is always on the right. I would expect a 
right/left bias of some sort to be in play here. 

Celia
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Re: [tips] Spot the confounds

2014-06-23 Thread Michael Britt
Good one Celia for catching the left/right bias!  


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On Jun 23, 2014, at 1:32 PM, Reaves, Celia (Psychology) crea...@monroecc.edu 
wrote:

 With regards to the twins and gum chewing, I agree that animacy/stasis is a 
 big factor. The one not chewing gum often looks like a zombie. Another, 
 probably smaller factor: the one chewing gum is always on the right. I would 
 expect a right/left bias of some sort to be in play here. 
 
 Celia
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 Department of Psychology
 Monroe Community College
 1000 East Henrietta Road
 Rochester, NY. 14623
 (585) 292-3258
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