Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
Hi, I can offer you hosting at server for HamQTH.com. Disk space and Internet connection is not a problem. You could install wiki on it and do whatever you need. Also disk space is not a problem. I have 1.5TB free. It's running on Ubuntu 12.04 and MySQL database. 73 Petr, OK2CQR 2015-01-17 21:01 GMT+01:00 Thomas Beierlein t...@forth-ev.de: Am 17.01.2015 20:26, schrieb Fred Siegmund: Is there a easy way to add pictures to the TLF wiki at github? See: http://mikehadlow.blogspot.de/2014/03/how-to-add-images-to-github-wiki.html or https://help.github.com/articles/adding-images-to-wikis/ If I read it right you can always embed external images but needs write access to the wikis underlying git repo to add new ones directly in the page. But I am not sure about that. 73, Tom 73 Fred Am 11.01.2015 um 15:31 schrieb Thomas Beierlein: Am Sun, 11 Jan 2015 15:02:35 +0100 schrieb Ervin Hegedüs airw...@gmail.com: Hi Ed, On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 08:46:36AM -0500, Ed wrote: On 01/11/2015 02:35 AM, Thomas Beierlein wrote: Hi all, as discussed some days ago we have now the new Tlf intro page at http://tlf.github.io (can be found also under http://tlf.github.com). Please have a look and give comments about corrections or suggested additions. 73, de Tom DL1JBE I'm stil getting the old page. I think there _isn't_ new page. If you want to help to contribute, have any idea to update this page, just notice us. Yep, it is not new, but on the new place where a index.html would be automatically found. Here is the source of that page: https://github.com/Tlf/tlf.github.com/blob/master/index.html If you have github account, you can clone that repository, and can made any modification. Let's start it! ;) https://github.com/Tlf/tlf.github.com Please do not edit the HTML file. That is much to much work. Better add your changes to the index.asciidoc file. It is nearly plain text and easy to edit. 73, Tom 73, Ervin HA2OS ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel -- http://HamQTH.com/ok2cqr http://ok2cqr.com http://cqrlog.com http://cqrtest.com ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
Am 17.01.2015 20:26, schrieb Fred Siegmund: Is there a easy way to add pictures to the TLF wiki at github? See: http://mikehadlow.blogspot.de/2014/03/how-to-add-images-to-github-wiki.html or https://help.github.com/articles/adding-images-to-wikis/ If I read it right you can always embed external images but needs write access to the wikis underlying git repo to add new ones directly in the page. But I am not sure about that. 73, Tom 73 Fred Am 11.01.2015 um 15:31 schrieb Thomas Beierlein: Am Sun, 11 Jan 2015 15:02:35 +0100 schrieb Ervin Hegedüs airw...@gmail.com: Hi Ed, On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 08:46:36AM -0500, Ed wrote: On 01/11/2015 02:35 AM, Thomas Beierlein wrote: Hi all, as discussed some days ago we have now the new Tlf intro page at http://tlf.github.io (can be found also under http://tlf.github.com). Please have a look and give comments about corrections or suggested additions. 73, de Tom DL1JBE I'm stil getting the old page. I think there _isn't_ new page. If you want to help to contribute, have any idea to update this page, just notice us. Yep, it is not new, but on the new place where a index.html would be automatically found. Here is the source of that page: https://github.com/Tlf/tlf.github.com/blob/master/index.html If you have github account, you can clone that repository, and can made any modification. Let's start it! ;) https://github.com/Tlf/tlf.github.com Please do not edit the HTML file. That is much to much work. Better add your changes to the index.asciidoc file. It is nearly plain text and easy to edit. 73, Tom 73, Ervin HA2OS ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
Hi Ed, On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 08:46:36AM -0500, Ed wrote: On 01/11/2015 02:35 AM, Thomas Beierlein wrote: Hi all, as discussed some days ago we have now the new Tlf intro page at http://tlf.github.io (can be found also under http://tlf.github.com). Please have a look and give comments about corrections or suggested additions. 73, de Tom DL1JBE I'm stil getting the old page. I think there _isn't_ new page. If you want to help to contribute, have any idea to update this page, just notice us. Here is the source of that page: https://github.com/Tlf/tlf.github.com/blob/master/index.html If you have github account, you can clone that repository, and can made any modification. Let's start it! ;) https://github.com/Tlf/tlf.github.com 73, Ervin HA2OS -- I � UTF-8 ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
On 01/11/2015 02:35 AM, Thomas Beierlein wrote: Hi all, as discussed some days ago we have now the new Tlf intro page at http://tlf.github.io (can be found also under http://tlf.github.com). Please have a look and give comments about corrections or suggested additions. 73, de Tom DL1JBE I'm stil getting the old page. Ed W3NR ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
Am Sun, 11 Jan 2015 15:02:35 +0100 schrieb Ervin Hegedüs airw...@gmail.com: Hi Ed, On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 08:46:36AM -0500, Ed wrote: On 01/11/2015 02:35 AM, Thomas Beierlein wrote: Hi all, as discussed some days ago we have now the new Tlf intro page at http://tlf.github.io (can be found also under http://tlf.github.com). Please have a look and give comments about corrections or suggested additions. 73, de Tom DL1JBE I'm stil getting the old page. I think there _isn't_ new page. If you want to help to contribute, have any idea to update this page, just notice us. Yep, it is not new, but on the new place where a index.html would be automatically found. Here is the source of that page: https://github.com/Tlf/tlf.github.com/blob/master/index.html If you have github account, you can clone that repository, and can made any modification. Let's start it! ;) https://github.com/Tlf/tlf.github.com Please do not edit the HTML file. That is much to much work. Better add your changes to the index.asciidoc file. It is nearly plain text and easy to edit. 73, Tom 73, Ervin HA2OS -- Do what is needful! Ursula LeGuin: Earthsea -- ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
Hi all, On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 03:31:41PM +0100, Thomas Beierlein wrote: Am Sun, 11 Jan 2015 15:02:35 +0100 schrieb Ervin Hegedüs airw...@gmail.com: If you have github account, you can clone that repository, and can made any modification. Let's start it! ;) https://github.com/Tlf/tlf.github.com Please do not edit the HTML file. That is much to much work. Better add your changes to the index.asciidoc file. It is nearly plain text and easy to edit. of course - and sorry, I mean if somebody wants to helps me, I assume he'll revise the source, ant it seems, the source had been generated by AsciiDoc. 73, Ervin HA2OS -- I � UTF-8 ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
Hi all, as discussed some days ago we have now the new Tlf intro page at http://tlf.github.io (can be found also under http://tlf.github.com). Please have a look and give comments about corrections or suggested additions. 73, de Tom DL1JBE Am Tue, 6 Jan 2015 21:11:52 +0100 schrieb Ervin Hegedüs airw...@gmail.com: Hi Thomas, On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 08:12:42PM +0100, Thomas Beierlein wrote: Am Tue, 6 Jan 2015 19:56:44 +0100 schrieb Ervin Hegedüs airw...@gmail.com: Wrt to the wiki I had done some experiments with the github one some time ago and I only remember that I was not very impressed. But I can not remember any more why exactly. Easiest way would be to make a own test repo on github and experiment with the wiki for that repo. We can link to that wiki anytime later from the static pages (and even switching to a different one should be easy). Why does it need any non-static page for a wiki? We're using some Mediawiki at our company, that's also contains static pages - which formatted by a simple markup language. It's more, than enough... ... Sorry if I choose the wrong words. I do mean 'static page' in another context. These are pages which can only be modified by someone having access to the github repo - that is different than a normal wiki where every user (maybe after registration) can add content. ah, yes, thanks - that's clear now. But I think the (new) situation above is also could be enough for us - I don't see the real different between having access to the github repo vs after registration. Okay, for github, there some git knowledge required... But any other reason? Thanks, 73, Ervin HA2OS -- Do what is needful! Ursula LeGuin: Earthsea -- ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
New users may don't know github or repos at all. They want to download a software, use it and get infos about it as easy as possible (eg. through a wiki or up to date static page). If we think github is the right place for all this ok, for me its a place to host code. But maybe we should start with that, otherwise we get another 100 proposals which wiki to use and so on... :) 73 Fred On 01/06/2015 07:12 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote: Hello, On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 10:42:15PM +0100, Fred Siegmund wrote: Ervin, can you register something like tlflogger.net and link to http://tlf.github.io/index2.html? This site could be edited then by several people (after registration, ok). But a serious wiki needs a login as well. Can we save the content from wikispaces somehow? Could github.io handle the external hostname? I mean, if I register a domain name (tlflogger.net was just a sudden idea :)), I can set up the with or without www A records to tlf.github.io - but it must to configure the github.io HTTP server to handle this (or these) hostnames (www.tlflogger.net or tlflogger.net). Another solution could be I made a virtual host one of my server, and set up an HTTP redirect - but that's not so nice... Anyway, why tlf.github.io isn't good? 73, Ervin HA2OS Am 05.01.2015 um 20:54 schrieb Ervin Hegedüs: Hi all, On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 07:52:03PM +0100, Fred Siegmund wrote: Wikidot HAS ads. Probably Ervin has a adblocker on, what i took as motivation to install it also now. :-) Thanks. yes, I have it :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_hosting_services oh', I've missed out to include this link from my first anwser in this thread :) My vote: https://meta.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page/en looks like also useful - but I can't choose anyone. As I proposed - choose a domain name (eg. tlflogger.net), and I can ensure the hosting (in Hungary). 73, Ervin HA2OS Am 05.01.2015 um 18:19 schrieb Ed: On 01/05/2015 11:57 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote: What do I have to do, to see any ad? I mean, a regular user how can see any ad on wikidot? The owner of wiki page sets the Google Ads source? Or how? thanks, 73: Ervin HA2OS Maybe Rein can fill us in how it works. Or someone could spend some time going through the documentation. I moderate both of the fldigi related Yahoo groups as well as try to keep the wiki updated, so I just wouldn't have the time. Ed W3NR ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
Hi Fred, On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 10:42:55AM +, FS wrote: New users may don't know github or repos at all. They want to download a software, use it and get infos about it as easy as possible (eg. through a wiki or up to date static page). yes, that's absolutely correct, If we think github is the right place for all this ok, for me its a place to host code. But maybe we should start with that, otherwise we get another 100 proposals which wiki to use and so on... :) why not? Any new user will not want to edit the wiki :), but any user can access the wiki, without github account. 73, Ervin HA2OS On 01/06/2015 07:12 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote: Hello, On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 10:42:15PM +0100, Fred Siegmund wrote: Ervin, can you register something like tlflogger.net and link to http://tlf.github.io/index2.html? This site could be edited then by several people (after registration, ok). But a serious wiki needs a login as well. Can we save the content from wikispaces somehow? Could github.io handle the external hostname? I mean, if I register a domain name (tlflogger.net was just a sudden idea :)), I can set up the with or without www A records to tlf.github.io - but it must to configure the github.io HTTP server to handle this (or these) hostnames (www.tlflogger.net or tlflogger.net). Another solution could be I made a virtual host one of my server, and set up an HTTP redirect - but that's not so nice... Anyway, why tlf.github.io isn't good? 73, Ervin HA2OS Am 05.01.2015 um 20:54 schrieb Ervin Hegedüs: Hi all, On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 07:52:03PM +0100, Fred Siegmund wrote: Wikidot HAS ads. Probably Ervin has a adblocker on, what i took as motivation to install it also now. :-) Thanks. yes, I have it :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_hosting_services oh', I've missed out to include this link from my first anwser in this thread :) My vote: https://meta.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page/en looks like also useful - but I can't choose anyone. As I proposed - choose a domain name (eg. tlflogger.net), and I can ensure the hosting (in Hungary). 73, Ervin HA2OS Am 05.01.2015 um 18:19 schrieb Ed: On 01/05/2015 11:57 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote: What do I have to do, to see any ad? I mean, a regular user how can see any ad on wikidot? The owner of wiki page sets the Google Ads source? Or how? thanks, 73: Ervin HA2OS Maybe Rein can fill us in how it works. Or someone could spend some time going through the documentation. I moderate both of the fldigi related Yahoo groups as well as try to keep the wiki updated, so I just wouldn't have the time. Ed W3NR ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
Hi Thomas, and all, On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 05:31:56PM +0100, Thomas Beierlein wrote: Hi all, as I moved the tlf code to github I had looked for a place to integrate all information (static pages, a wiki and maybe a new list server) at a single point. So I created the tlf.github.com repo as a first test to generate the tlf.github.io pages. The first experiment was the index2.html page which Fred mentioned. Unfortunately I found not the time to complete the work. If we want to use it I will simply move that page to http://tlf.github.io/index.html and we have a static page as a starting point. I don't see, why isn't good for us this. Until now I had written the page in ASCIIDOC - quiet simple. The idea behind was to have a chance to recycle what was written for a user manual (ASCIIDOC can easily create PDF files). But that is just a starting point and there is no need o keep it that way. As I see the github.io, I think that will be enough... We can upload pictures, can format the text... If you are interested I can give you access to the pages. For that I need an public ssh key from you. Personally, I'm focusing to another tasks in Tlf, but I planned to make/extend Tlf documentation - example, I imagined a big QTC howto with images, some video... etc. If we want another domain to redirect to the pages under a different name it is documented at https://help.github.com/articles/setting-up-a-custom-domain-with-github-pages/ I am not quite firm in that but maybe you can see how it should be done. that's very simple, but now I don't see the reason, why we should choose own domain name - of course, if this commnity wants an own domain name, I'll registrate that, but if we find the final solution, then it not required. Wrt to the wiki I had done some experiments with the github one some time ago and I only remember that I was not very impressed. But I can not remember any more why exactly. Easiest way would be to make a own test repo on github and experiment with the wiki for that repo. We can link to that wiki anytime later from the static pages (and even switching to a different one should be easy). Why does it need any non-static page for a wiki? We're using some Mediawiki at our company, that's also contains static pages - which formatted by a simple markup language. It's more, than enough... 73, Ervin HA2OS -- I � UTF-8 ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
Hi Thomas, On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 08:12:42PM +0100, Thomas Beierlein wrote: Am Tue, 6 Jan 2015 19:56:44 +0100 schrieb Ervin Hegedüs airw...@gmail.com: Wrt to the wiki I had done some experiments with the github one some time ago and I only remember that I was not very impressed. But I can not remember any more why exactly. Easiest way would be to make a own test repo on github and experiment with the wiki for that repo. We can link to that wiki anytime later from the static pages (and even switching to a different one should be easy). Why does it need any non-static page for a wiki? We're using some Mediawiki at our company, that's also contains static pages - which formatted by a simple markup language. It's more, than enough... ... Sorry if I choose the wrong words. I do mean 'static page' in another context. These are pages which can only be modified by someone having access to the github repo - that is different than a normal wiki where every user (maybe after registration) can add content. ah, yes, thanks - that's clear now. But I think the (new) situation above is also could be enough for us - I don't see the real different between having access to the github repo vs after registration. Okay, for github, there some git knowledge required... But any other reason? Thanks, 73, Ervin HA2OS -- I � UTF-8 ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
Am Tue, 6 Jan 2015 19:56:44 +0100 schrieb Ervin Hegedüs airw...@gmail.com: Hi Thomas, and all, ... Wrt to the wiki I had done some experiments with the github one some time ago and I only remember that I was not very impressed. But I can not remember any more why exactly. Easiest way would be to make a own test repo on github and experiment with the wiki for that repo. We can link to that wiki anytime later from the static pages (and even switching to a different one should be easy). Why does it need any non-static page for a wiki? We're using some Mediawiki at our company, that's also contains static pages - which formatted by a simple markup language. It's more, than enough... ... Sorry if I choose the wrong words. I do mean 'static page' in another context. These are pages which can only be modified by someone having access to the github repo - that is different than a normal wiki where every user (maybe after registration) can add content. 73, Tom DL1JBE -- Do what is needful! Ursula LeGuin: Earthsea -- ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
Hi all, as I moved the tlf code to github I had looked for a place to integrate all information (static pages, a wiki and maybe a new list server) at a single point. So I created the tlf.github.com repo as a first test to generate the tlf.github.io pages. The first experiment was the index2.html page which Fred mentioned. Unfortunately I found not the time to complete the work. If we want to use it I will simply move that page to http://tlf.github.io/index.html and we have a static page as a starting point. Until now I had written the page in ASCIIDOC - quiet simple. The idea behind was to have a chance to recycle what was written for a user manual (ASCIIDOC can easily create PDF files). But that is just a starting point and there is no need o keep it that way. If you are interested I can give you access to the pages. For that I need an public ssh key from you. If we want another domain to redirect to the pages under a different name it is documented at https://help.github.com/articles/setting-up-a-custom-domain-with-github-pages/ I am not quite firm in that but maybe you can see how it should be done. Wrt to the wiki I had done some experiments with the github one some time ago and I only remember that I was not very impressed. But I can not remember any more why exactly. Easiest way would be to make a own test repo on github and experiment with the wiki for that repo. We can link to that wiki anytime later from the static pages (and even switching to a different one should be easy). 73, de Tom DL1JBE Am Tue, 6 Jan 2015 13:41:48 +0100 schrieb Ervin Hegedüs airw...@gmail.com: Hi Fred, On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 10:42:55AM +, FS wrote: New users may don't know github or repos at all. They want to download a software, use it and get infos about it as easy as possible (eg. through a wiki or up to date static page). yes, that's absolutely correct, If we think github is the right place for all this ok, for me its a place to host code. But maybe we should start with that, otherwise we get another 100 proposals which wiki to use and so on... :) why not? Any new user will not want to edit the wiki :), but any user can access the wiki, without github account. 73, Ervin HA2OS On 01/06/2015 07:12 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote: Hello, On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 10:42:15PM +0100, Fred Siegmund wrote: Ervin, can you register something like tlflogger.net and link to http://tlf.github.io/index2.html? This site could be edited then by several people (after registration, ok). But a serious wiki needs a login as well. Can we save the content from wikispaces somehow? Could github.io handle the external hostname? I mean, if I register a domain name (tlflogger.net was just a sudden idea :)), I can set up the with or without www A records to tlf.github.io - but it must to configure the github.io HTTP server to handle this (or these) hostnames (www.tlflogger.net or tlflogger.net). Another solution could be I made a virtual host one of my server, and set up an HTTP redirect - but that's not so nice... Anyway, why tlf.github.io isn't good? 73, Ervin HA2OS Am 05.01.2015 um 20:54 schrieb Ervin Hegedüs: Hi all, On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 07:52:03PM +0100, Fred Siegmund wrote: Wikidot HAS ads. Probably Ervin has a adblocker on, what i took as motivation to install it also now. :-) Thanks. yes, I have it :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_hosting_services oh', I've missed out to include this link from my first anwser in this thread :) My vote: https://meta.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page/en looks like also useful - but I can't choose anyone. As I proposed - choose a domain name (eg. tlflogger.net), and I can ensure the hosting (in Hungary). 73, Ervin HA2OS Am 05.01.2015 um 18:19 schrieb Ed: On 01/05/2015 11:57 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote: What do I have to do, to see any ad? I mean, a regular user how can see any ad on wikidot? The owner of wiki page sets the Google Ads source? Or how? thanks, 73: Ervin HA2OS Maybe Rein can fill us in how it works. Or someone could spend some time going through the documentation. I moderate both of the fldigi related Yahoo groups as well as try to keep the wiki updated, so I just wouldn't have the time. Ed W3NR ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel ___ Tlf-devel mailing
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
Hello, On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 03:31:59PM +0100, Thomas Beierlein wrote: a static web site can be done via the github pages, which are already registered. If anyone is interested to work on it, I can add you to the maintainers. The wiki seems to be a different problem. Github wiki requires a github account I think this is a pro argument, and seems to be not so flexible. Which flexible quality requires for a wiki, what Github doesn't have? 73, Ervin HA2OS ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
On 01/05/2015 09:18 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote: Hi Fred, and other Tlf users, On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 12:51:58PM +, FS wrote: Hi TLF users, maybe someone has noticed that the wiki at wikispaces is not useable anymore and probably will not be in the future. So the need for a dedicated homepage/wiki? is more urgent then ever. The fldigi wiki is hosted here, might be a choice. https://fedorahosted.org/web/index Ed W3NR ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
[Tlf-devel] Wiki
Hi TLF users, maybe someone has noticed that the wiki at wikispaces is not useable anymore and probably will not be in the future. So the need for a dedicated homepage/wiki? is more urgent then ever. 73 Fred ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
Hi all, Am Mon, 05 Jan 2015 09:23:01 -0500 schrieb Ed au...@comcast.net: On 01/05/2015 09:18 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote: Hi Fred, and other Tlf users, On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 12:51:58PM +, FS wrote: Hi TLF users, maybe someone has noticed that the wiki at wikispaces is not useable anymore and probably will not be in the future. So the need for a dedicated homepage/wiki? is more urgent then ever. The fldigi wiki is hosted here, might be a choice. https://fedorahosted.org/web/index Ed W3NR a static web site can be done via the github pages, which are already registered. If anyone is interested to work on it, I can add you to the maintainers. The wiki seems to be a different problem. Github wiki requires a github account and seems to be not so flexible. Other choices may be sourceforge or the fedora one Ed mentioned. 73 Tom DL1JBE -- Do what is needful! Ursula LeGuin: Earthsea -- ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
On 01/05/2015 11:01 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote: Hello all, On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 04:35:25PM +0100, Thomas Beierlein wrote: I just got a pm from Rein PA0R about the subject. Am Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:52:13 +0100 schrieb Rein Couperus r...@couperus.com: The pskmailwiki has been moved to wikidot.com, maybe that is also an option for the TLF wiki? Looks interesting. What do you think? looks like useful. 73, Ervin HA2OS This bothers me about wikidot.com Although from time to time we display ads on free sites, this is done as discretely as possible. Moreover, we are giving you simple opt-out options which transfer all the control to you! If you want, you can start earning money with Google AdSense whenever someone clicks ads on your pages. The best thing is that you can set if the ads are displayed to everyone or only to unlogged Wikidot users. You also have control over placement, colors, sizes — and you can start now! Ed W3NR ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
Hi Ed, On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 11:10:05AM -0500, Ed wrote: On 01/05/2015 11:01 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote: Hello all, On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 04:35:25PM +0100, Thomas Beierlein wrote: I just got a pm from Rein PA0R about the subject. Am Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:52:13 +0100 schrieb Rein Couperus r...@couperus.com: The pskmailwiki has been moved to wikidot.com, maybe that is also an option for the TLF wiki? Looks interesting. What do you think? looks like useful. 73, Ervin HA2OS This bothers me about wikidot.com Although from time to time we display ads on free sites, this is done as discretely as possible. Moreover, we are giving you simple opt-out options which transfer all the control to you! If you want, you can start earning money with Google AdSense whenever someone clicks ads on your pages. The best thing is that you can set if the ads are displayed to everyone or only to unlogged Wikidot users. You also have control over placement, colors, sizes — and you can start now! currently, I don't see _any_ ad on this page: http://pskmail.wikidot.com/ What do I have to do, to see any ad? I mean, a regular user how can see any ad on wikidot? The owner of wiki page sets the Google Ads source? Or how? thanks, 73: Ervin HA2OS ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
Why not github? Pat On 2015-01-05 16:49, Ed wrote: On 01/05/2015 04:07 PM, Thomas Beierlein wrote: Another point is to look how to avoid the spamming of the wiki. It needs regular time to clean up the spam. Do we have time for that? Does anyone have experience how to handle it? I for myself have no preference for any of the mentioned wiki systems. 73, de Tom DL1JBE The fldigi wiki has been around for several years, never had a spam problem, but I keep an eye on it weekly. You have to register to edit, but its open to everyone to read. I would be OK if we went with Ervin's suggestion. Ed W3NR ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
Ervin, can you register something like tlflogger.net and link to http://tlf.github.io/index2.html? This site could be edited then by several people (after registration, ok). But a serious wiki needs a login as well. Can we save the content from wikispaces somehow? 73 Fred Am 05.01.2015 um 20:54 schrieb Ervin Hegedüs: Hi all, On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 07:52:03PM +0100, Fred Siegmund wrote: Wikidot HAS ads. Probably Ervin has a adblocker on, what i took as motivation to install it also now. :-) Thanks. yes, I have it :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_hosting_services oh', I've missed out to include this link from my first anwser in this thread :) My vote: https://meta.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page/en looks like also useful - but I can't choose anyone. As I proposed - choose a domain name (eg. tlflogger.net), and I can ensure the hosting (in Hungary). 73, Ervin HA2OS Am 05.01.2015 um 18:19 schrieb Ed: On 01/05/2015 11:57 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote: What do I have to do, to see any ad? I mean, a regular user how can see any ad on wikidot? The owner of wiki page sets the Google Ads source? Or how? thanks, 73: Ervin HA2OS Maybe Rein can fill us in how it works. Or someone could spend some time going through the documentation. I moderate both of the fldigi related Yahoo groups as well as try to keep the wiki updated, so I just wouldn't have the time. Ed W3NR ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
Hello, On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 10:07:35PM +0100, Thomas Beierlein wrote: Yes, ads may be a problem. Another point is to look how to avoid the spamming of the wiki. It needs regular time to clean up the spam. Do we have time for that? Does anyone have experience how to handle it? I for myself have no preference for any of the mentioned wiki systems. I just know Mediawiki, I've installed many of that. In that case is possible to authenticate all registered user (the registration could be controlled and verified, not anybody can register), but anybody can read the articles. 73, Ervin HA2OS 73, de Tom DL1JBE Am 05.01.2015 19:52, schrieb Fred Siegmund: Wikidot HAS ads. Probably Ervin has a adblocker on, what i took as motivation to install it also now. :-) Thanks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_hosting_services My vote: https://meta.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page/en 73 Fred Am 05.01.2015 um 18:19 schrieb Ed: On 01/05/2015 11:57 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote: What do I have to do, to see any ad? I mean, a regular user how can see any ad on wikidot? The owner of wiki page sets the Google Ads source? Or how? thanks, 73: Ervin HA2OS Maybe Rein can fill us in how it works. Or someone could spend some time going through the documentation. I moderate both of the fldigi related Yahoo groups as well as try to keep the wiki updated, so I just wouldn't have the time. Ed W3NR ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel -- I � UTF-8 ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
* On 2015 05 Jan 08:33 -0600, Thomas Beierlein wrote: The wiki seems to be a different problem. Github wiki requires a github account and seems to be not so flexible. Other choices may be sourceforge or the fedora one Ed mentioned. I would not bother with SourceForge as they provide a MarkDown Wiki by default unless a project wants to go it alone with another Wiki package. We're discussing that a bit on the Hamlib list as SF.net took away MediaWiki last summer as a hosted app. All of our content was in MediaWiki and would need to be transitioned to something else. Not fun. 73, Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
I think I know what they might be saying. The person who has control of a page or pages) can use Google AdSense to make a little money. I have several pages like that, on two web sites, on the dedicated LAMP server that we lease. You can see one of them at http://www.w0btu.com/classic_icom.html. That ad is vertical on the right side, and the ads change all the time. They can be horizontal or vertical, big or small. When a visitor clicks on one, then we make a few pennies. We make about $100 per year from both web sites, IIRC. But I know a guy locally where clicks on the ads on his site pays his monthly home mortgage payment! Here's the AdSense, if you want to sign up: http://www.google.com/adsense/start/. Those ads are probably on millions of web pages worldwide. I hope this helps explain things a little. 73, Mike www.w0btu.com On 01/05/2015 11:57 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote: The owner of wiki page sets the Google Ads source? Or how? ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
Hi all, On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 07:52:03PM +0100, Fred Siegmund wrote: Wikidot HAS ads. Probably Ervin has a adblocker on, what i took as motivation to install it also now. :-) Thanks. yes, I have it :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_hosting_services oh', I've missed out to include this link from my first anwser in this thread :) My vote: https://meta.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page/en looks like also useful - but I can't choose anyone. As I proposed - choose a domain name (eg. tlflogger.net), and I can ensure the hosting (in Hungary). 73, Ervin HA2OS Am 05.01.2015 um 18:19 schrieb Ed: On 01/05/2015 11:57 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote: What do I have to do, to see any ad? I mean, a regular user how can see any ad on wikidot? The owner of wiki page sets the Google Ads source? Or how? thanks, 73: Ervin HA2OS Maybe Rein can fill us in how it works. Or someone could spend some time going through the documentation. I moderate both of the fldigi related Yahoo groups as well as try to keep the wiki updated, so I just wouldn't have the time. Ed W3NR ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel -- I � UTF-8 ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
I just got a pm from Rein PA0R about the subject. Am Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:52:13 +0100 schrieb Rein Couperus r...@couperus.com: The pskmailwiki has been moved to wikidot.com, maybe that is also an option for the TLF wiki? Looks interesting. What do you think? 73, de Tom DL1JBE Am Mon, 5 Jan 2015 15:31:59 +0100 schrieb Thomas Beierlein t...@forth-ev.de: Hi all, Am Mon, 05 Jan 2015 09:23:01 -0500 schrieb Ed au...@comcast.net: On 01/05/2015 09:18 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote: Hi Fred, and other Tlf users, On Mon, Jan 05, 2015 at 12:51:58PM +, FS wrote: Hi TLF users, maybe someone has noticed that the wiki at wikispaces is not useable anymore and probably will not be in the future. So the need for a dedicated homepage/wiki? is more urgent then ever. The fldigi wiki is hosted here, might be a choice. https://fedorahosted.org/web/index Ed W3NR a static web site can be done via the github pages, which are already registered. If anyone is interested to work on it, I can add you to the maintainers. The wiki seems to be a different problem. Github wiki requires a github account and seems to be not so flexible. Other choices may be sourceforge or the fedora one Ed mentioned. 73 Tom DL1JBE -- Do what is needful! Ursula LeGuin: Earthsea -- ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
Re: [Tlf-devel] Wiki
Yes, ads may be a problem. Another point is to look how to avoid the spamming of the wiki. It needs regular time to clean up the spam. Do we have time for that? Does anyone have experience how to handle it? I for myself have no preference for any of the mentioned wiki systems. 73, de Tom DL1JBE Am 05.01.2015 19:52, schrieb Fred Siegmund: Wikidot HAS ads. Probably Ervin has a adblocker on, what i took as motivation to install it also now. :-) Thanks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_hosting_services My vote: https://meta.orain.org/wiki/Main_Page/en 73 Fred Am 05.01.2015 um 18:19 schrieb Ed: On 01/05/2015 11:57 AM, Ervin Hegedüs wrote: What do I have to do, to see any ad? I mean, a regular user how can see any ad on wikidot? The owner of wiki page sets the Google Ads source? Or how? thanks, 73: Ervin HA2OS Maybe Rein can fill us in how it works. Or someone could spend some time going through the documentation. I moderate both of the fldigi related Yahoo groups as well as try to keep the wiki updated, so I just wouldn't have the time. Ed W3NR ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel ___ Tlf-devel mailing list Tlf-devel@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/tlf-devel
