Re: [TLS] TLS1.3 status/expectations

2016-03-01 Thread Martin Thomson
On 2 March 2016 at 14:39, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > Reading this over, I wonder if we're talking about the same thing. It's > probably my fault for > using the word "self-contained" here, so in the interest of clarifying, what > I meant here was > "separate". Yes, separate was my thought. > Spec

Re: [TLS] TLS1.3 status/expectations

2016-03-01 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 7:01 PM, Martin Thomson wrote: > On 2 March 2016 at 13:55, Eric Rescorla wrote: > > I think a "safer" profile of TLS, as in "implement the following features > > (section XXX, YYY) and not the following (section ZZZ)" then that seems > like > > something that might potenti

Re: [TLS] TLS1.3 status/expectations

2016-03-01 Thread Watson Ladd
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 7:01 PM, Martin Thomson wrote: > On 2 March 2016 at 13:55, Eric Rescorla wrote: >> I think a "safer" profile of TLS, as in "implement the following features >> (section XXX, YYY) and not the following (section ZZZ)" then that seems like >> something that might potentially b

Re: [TLS] TLS1.3 status/expectations

2016-03-01 Thread Martin Thomson
On 2 March 2016 at 13:55, Eric Rescorla wrote: > I think a "safer" profile of TLS, as in "implement the following features > (section XXX, YYY) and not the following (section ZZZ)" then that seems like > something that might potentially be a useful exercise. Depending on length, > this might event

Re: [TLS] TLS1.3 status/expectations

2016-03-01 Thread Eric Rescorla
On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Watson Ladd wrote: > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 6:45 AM, Sean Turner wrote: > > At the TRON workshop [0], we (Joe and Sean) were asked to provide our > views about the status and timeline for TLS 1.3; we wanted to share the > same information with the WG. > > > > Bef

Re: [TLS] TLS1.3 status/expectations

2016-03-01 Thread Watson Ladd
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 6:45 AM, Sean Turner wrote: > At the TRON workshop [0], we (Joe and Sean) were asked to provide our views > about the status and timeline for TLS 1.3; we wanted to share the same > information with the WG. > > Before that though, we want to thank the researchers for the t

Re: [TLS] TLS1.3 status/expectations

2016-02-29 Thread Bill Frantz
On 2/29/16 at 6:45 AM, s...@sn3rd.com (Sean Turner) wrote: One thing that was reinforced at TRON and we think the TLS WG should be aware of is that the research community needs time to do their analysis. With that in mind, the chairs are very strongly leaning towards an extended WGLC of 6 wee

[TLS] TLS1.3 status/expectations

2016-02-29 Thread Sean Turner
At the TRON workshop [0], we (Joe and Sean) were asked to provide our views about the status and timeline for TLS 1.3; we wanted to share the same information with the WG. Before that though, we want to thank the researchers for the time they put into analyzing the protocol as well as the TRON