Re: [TLS] TLS@IETF101 Agenda Posted

2018-03-08 Thread Artyom Gavrichenkov
Hi Sean, Joe, WG also has this at its disposal: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-fenter-tls-decryption-00 Will that be discussed along with draft-rhrd-tls-tls13-visibility? Those two seem to be rather connected/dependant on each other. | Artyom Gavrichenkov | gpg: 2deb 97b1 0a3c 151d b67f 1ee5

Re: [TLS] TLS@IETF101 Agenda Posted

2018-03-08 Thread Artyom Gavrichenkov
Hi Darin, I just asked for clarification whether it's on a TLS WG agenda for London. I'm not quite sure this is a right thread to discuss the contents of that draft. (In fact, I'm pretty sire it isn't.) | Artyom Gavrichenkov | gpg: 2deb 97b1 0a3c 151d b67f 1ee5 00e7 94bc 4d08

Re: [TLS] TLS@IETF101 Agenda Posted

2018-03-13 Thread Artyom Gavrichenkov
Hi Nalini, вт, 13 мар. 2018 г., 11:59 nalini elkins : > The TLS working group has been concentrating on making the Internet secure > for the individual user.We feel that there is also an underlying > motivation to help the underdog and protect the political dissident. > This isn't about diss

Re: [TLS] TLS@IETF101 Agenda Posted

2018-03-13 Thread Artyom Gavrichenkov
Hi Eric, The author probably refers to a case where an infosec dept of an enterprise will not just disable TLSv1.3 on the servers, but will also set up some deep-juju DPI for filtering v1.3 in transit to make sure no one will enable v1.3 accidentally somewhere. As those DPI solutions are often of

Re: [TLS] TLS@IETF101 Agenda Posted

2018-03-13 Thread Artyom Gavrichenkov
parent for anyone? вт, 13 мар. 2018 г., 13:39 Sean Turner : > > > > On Mar 13, 2018, at 16:31, Artyom Gavrichenkov > wrote: > > > > Hi Nalini, > > > > вт, 13 мар. 2018 г., 11:59 nalini elkins : > > The TLS working group has been concentrating on making th

Re: [TLS] TLS@IETF101 Agenda Posted

2018-03-13 Thread Artyom Gavrichenkov
e is not addressed properly in draft-fenter. Because simply stating that "typically, only select groups within an organization [are able to see decrypted traffic]" doesn't seem enough. (this is just a single example of an issue with that draft) | Artyom Gavrichenkov | gpg: 2deb 97

Re: [TLS] TLS@IETF101 Agenda Posted

2018-03-13 Thread Artyom Gavrichenkov
13 Mar. 2018 г., 18:38 Ted Lemon : > One strategy that's very effective for overcoming resistance to bad ideas > is to keep pushing the idea until nobody who's resisting it can afford to > continue doing so. > There's a name for that tactics, it's called "consensus by exhaustion". (On the recent

Re: [TLS] TLS@IETF101 Agenda Posted

2018-03-14 Thread Artyom Gavrichenkov
l my daughter, "if you > hear hoof beats, it is likely not a zebra, it is a horse". > > The simple explanation is that people think they will have serious issues > with TLS1.3 and actually, TLS1.2 when it is DH only. > > Nalini > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 4:45 P

Re: [TLS] TLS@IETF101 Agenda Posted

2018-03-14 Thread Artyom Gavrichenkov
14 Mar. 2018 г., 22:32 Ralph Droms : > > On Mar 13, 2018, at 7:45 PM, Artyom Gavrichenkov > wrote: > > 13 Mar. 2018 г., 18:38 Ted Lemon : > >> One strategy that's very effective for overcoming resistance to bad ideas >> is to keep pushing the idea until nobo

Re: [TLS] Breaking into TLS to protect customers

2018-03-14 Thread Artyom Gavrichenkov
Are we going to discuss draft-fenter ad hoc, or we'll start a new thread dedicated to that? Because I strongly believe I also have some suggestions for that draft. ср, 14 мар. 2018 г., 23:30 Salz, Rich : > Some on this list have said that they need to break into TLS in order to > protect customer

Re: [TLS] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tls-sni-encryption-03.txt

2018-05-23 Thread Artyom Gavrichenkov
ot in any way different from just an arbitrary ISP. I support removal of this case, it's virtually impossible to protect against it. | Artyom Gavrichenkov | gpg: 2deb 97b1 0a3c 151d b67f 1ee5 00e7 94bc 4d08 9191 | mailto: xima...@gmail.com | fb: ximaera | telegram: xima_era | skype: xima_era

Re: [TLS] WG adoption call: draft-moriarty-tls-oldversions-diediedie

2018-08-18 Thread Artyom Gavrichenkov
I support the adoption. | Artyom Gavrichenkov | gpg: 2deb 97b1 0a3c 151d b67f 1ee5 00e7 94bc 4d08 9191 | mailto: xima...@gmail.com | fb: ximaera | telegram: xima_era | skype: xima_era | tel. no: +7 916 515 49 58 On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 8:33 PM Sean Turner wrote: > > At the TLS@IETF102 s

Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-moriarty-tls-oldversions-diediedie-00.txt

2018-08-18 Thread Artyom Gavrichenkov
On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 7:42 PM Kathleen Moriarty wrote: > Stephen and I posted the draft below to see if the TLS working group > is ready to take steps to deprecate TLSv1.0 and TLSv1.1. There has > been a recent drop off in usage for web applications due to the PCI > Council recommendation to mov

Re: [TLS] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-moriarty-tls-oldversions-diediedie-00.txt

2018-08-19 Thread Artyom Gavrichenkov
Good day! On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 3:01 AM Stephen Farrell wrote: > 1. The bit you quote above is incomplete Yep, but the rest of the paragraph just outlines *recommendations* (or, even better, 'encouragements') while the draft states that "PCI Council [is] deprecating TLSv1.0 and TLSv1.1 by June