Hi, I would like to have the possibility to not include jasper in our production system.
We are using TC 3.3.2-dev plus Velocity. It does not really hurt us, but having fewer code is always better IHMO :) I really love the modularity og TC 3.3.x Bill, can you give me hints, how to patch TC 3.3.2-dev to exclude jasper ? Another thought regarding the Admin Webapp in TC 4.x/TC 5.0: (please forgive me if I am completly off the track here) I would rather like to be able to use the Admin Webapp on a seperate remote Admin Tomcat to control our production system. I really do not want to install such sensitive code on our live servers. So the Admin Webapp could connect to the production Tomcat and execute for example ant tasks to restart contexts, deploy a webapp and so on. (The localhost shutdown restriction is no option, since our servers are at out ISP and have to be controlled from within our office.) Thanks, Hans > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Bill Barker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Gesendet: Samstag, 7. Dezember 2002 09:59 > An: Tomcat Developers List > Betreff: Re: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution > > > It would cause nightmares if you knew how badly I've got my e-mails > cross-linked :). > > This is to +1 the original VOTE. While I'm personally a heavy JSP user, > having patched TC 3.3.x to allow it to run in servlet-only mode, I see the > need for offering a servlet-only container. > > According to the Costin-vote-watch, we still need at least one more > (binding) +1 to authorize a servlet-only release of Tomcat. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "IAS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Tomcat Developers List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 11:02 PM > Subject: RE: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution > > > > I'm very glad to see this vote proposal because it seems to me like the > > first step of Servlet/JSP mutual independence. > > > > Two months ago I proposed Tomcat architectural refactoring plan (at that > > time "Tomcat subproject plan") on > > http://www.mail-archive.com/tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg34720.html. > > I also showed JSF+Struts+Catalina ensemble on > > http://www.mail-archive.com/tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg35116.html > > and a possible Jasper-Catalina relationship on > > http://www.mail-archive.com/tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg35119.html. > > I sincerely understand a very few of Tomcat committers share interest in > > this issue like jean-frederic clere's seconding on > > http://www.mail-archive.com/tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg34768.html. > > > > > > In my humble opinion, in terms of technology, it is not imperative that > > Servlet should go with JSP. In fact, the mother of Tomcat, JServ also > > started as a Servlet engine. In other words, Servlet technology itself > > is independent one. It also implies that Java Web developers have > > freedom of choosing dynamic page generation technology over Servlet. We > > can say we have right to use JSP, but on the other hand, we have right > > not to use JSP in purely technical perspective. > > > > However, I totally agree on the need that we deliver JSP equipped Tomcat > > for the majority of Tomcat users who are very familiar with JSP (even > > cannot live without JSP like me :-). I guess the problem is "Who will do > > (or exactly speaking, be willing to do) the job, i.e. making > > Servlet-only-Tomcat since we need a considerable number of Tomcat > > committers (Costin said 3) for that. If we get wide support from Tomcat > > committers but they can't afford the job, how about gathering > > Servlet-only-Tomcat team whether they belong to committers or not? I > > hope there would be many people who will volunteer for that, including > > myself. The detailed processes respecting the work could be discussed > > from now on, and this chance might be a new attempt to develop greater > > Tomcat empowered by volunteers. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > IAS > > > > =========================================================== > > Lee, Changshin (Korean name) > > IAS (International name) > > Company Web Site: http://www.tmax.co.kr > > Personal Web Site: http://www.iasandcb.pe.kr > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Senior Researcher & Java Technology Evangelist > > JCP member - http://jcp.org/en/participation/members/L > > R&D Institute > > Tmax Soft, Inc. > > JCP member - http://jcp.org/en/participation/members/T > > ========================================================== > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 1:09 AM > > > To: tomcat-dev > > > Subject: [VOTE] minimal JSR 154 only distribution > > > > > > Create a separate minimal JSR 154 only distribution of Tomcat 4.x: > > > > > > +1 [] > > > 0 [] > > > -1 [] > > > > > > -jon > > > > > > -- > > > StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment > > > 314 11th Street @ Folsom /\ San Francisco > > > http://studioz.tv/ > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:tomcat-dev- > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:tomcat-dev- > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
