Tomcat 4.0

2002-07-31 Thread Thomas Colin de Verdière

  Hi,
  we are using Tomcat 3.2.4, we deliver to the customer a solution with
Tomcat 3.2.4 and we would like to use either Tomcat 3.3 either Tomcat 4.0. Our 
product work fine with Tomcat 4.0 and Tomcat 3.2.4.
Our customers develop their applications using Tomcat 3.2.4 and so it is 
easy for them to a have a free environment then if they wish they can 
go to a commercial server.

As tomcat 4.0 provides some efficient way to manage log .., compilation 
JSP, a standard taglib (JSTL)  compatible. We are asking ourself if it 
is a good way to upgrade to Tomcat 4.0 or Tomcat 3.3. Because TC 3.3 is 
servlet 2.2 and jsp 1.1 compatible, instead Tomcat 4.0 is servlet 2.3 
and jsp 1.2 compatible. Most of the commercials products are
working today on 2.2 and 1.1 platform so this is why we are asking this?
We want to keep a compatibility with S 2.2, JSP 1.1 . If any of you have 
some responses
they are very welcomed.


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Re: Tomcat 4.0

2002-07-31 Thread Thomas Colin de Verdière

Well in fact we would like to use Tomcat 4.0 but our customers may want to use 
Bea Weblogic, ATG dynamo ..
We don't want to force them to use a specific server. My question should be :
is there a way in Tomcat 4.0 to make it behave as a servlet 2.2, jsp 1.1 server.
I looked at web.xml and there is the path to the dtd which could be constraint to 
force the customer not to use filter (for example). But for my jsps can i make them
specific to a JSP version. Since we are developping demos it could be great to port 
on any server the customer would like. Am i clear?


Michael E. Locasto wrote:
 Hi,
 
 The 2.3/1.2 spec requires implementations to be backward compatible.
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/
 
 As required by the specifications, Tomcat 4.0 also supports web
 applications built for the Servlet 2.2 and JSP 1.1 specifications with no
 changes.
 
 As far as the choice between 3.3.1 and 4.x, people have their favorites. A
 lot of people run either very happily. There are arguments for both
 approaches, but I'd say the critical factor for you is how involved your
 users are in the administration of some Tomcat instance. The decision is
 yours; I suppose you could offer both environments as development for any
 of your customers interested in migration. Let them do the assessment for
 you :)
 
 Regards,
 Michael Locasto
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Thomas Colin de Verdière [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:48 AM
 Subject: Tomcat 4.0
 
 
 
  Hi,
  we are using Tomcat 3.2.4, we deliver to the customer a solution with
Tomcat 3.2.4 and we would like to use either Tomcat 3.3 either Tomcat 4.0.
 
 Our
 
product work fine with Tomcat 4.0 and Tomcat 3.2.4.
Our customers develop their applications using Tomcat 3.2.4 and so it is
easy for them to a have a free environment then if they wish they can
go to a commercial server.

As tomcat 4.0 provides some efficient way to manage log .., compilation
JSP, a standard taglib (JSTL)  compatible. We are asking ourself if it
is a good way to upgrade to Tomcat 4.0 or Tomcat 3.3. Because TC 3.3 is
servlet 2.2 and jsp 1.1 compatible, instead Tomcat 4.0 is servlet 2.3
and jsp 1.2 compatible. Most of the commercials products are
working today on 2.2 and 1.1 platform so this is why we are asking this?
We want to keep a compatibility with S 2.2, JSP 1.1 . If any of you have
some responses
they are very welcomed.


Thomas Colin de Verdière
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Re: Tomcat 4.0

2002-07-31 Thread Thomas Colin de Verdière

There are not very involved since they should use another servlet container, even an
application server. 
We have many of our customers using Tomcat 3.2.4 but some use Websphere, other 
WebLogic ...
Our product work on tomcat we have our own Servlets and taglib delivered in 
WEB-INF/lib/ of our demos applications, we have configuration files in a subdirectory  
of the conf directory. There are some properties file for jndi access. Our product can 
be customized. This customization is on the properties file but also on jsps and 
servlets we deliver.
For example we can have the customer can change an init-param for a servlet and he 
could also want to modify a Jsp page by adding custom tags.
This customization the customer can do it anytime. But if he wants to port his 
customized application to another server we don't want him to use some jsp 1.2 
specific features like using JSTL in our jsp since most of products are not jsp 1.2 
compatible.
The fact is that i want to migrate my taglib to jsp 1.2 compatible and i don't want to 
write (and support) it for both jsp 1.1 and jsp 1.2 server. We want a smooth migration 
..


Michael E. Locasto wrote:
 Hi,
 
 The 2.3/1.2 spec requires implementations to be backward compatible.
 
 http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/
 
 As required by the specifications, Tomcat 4.0 also supports web
 applications built for the Servlet 2.2 and JSP 1.1 specifications with no
 changes.
 
 As far as the choice between 3.3.1 and 4.x, people have their favorites. A
 lot of people run either very happily. There are arguments for both
 approaches, but I'd say the critical factor for you is how involved your
 users are in the administration of some Tomcat instance. The decision is
 yours; I suppose you could offer both environments as development for any
 of your customers interested in migration. Let them do the assessment for
 you :)
 
 Regards,
 Michael Locasto
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Thomas Colin de Verdière [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:48 AM
 Subject: Tomcat 4.0
 
 
 
  Hi,
  we are using Tomcat 3.2.4, we deliver to the customer a solution with
Tomcat 3.2.4 and we would like to use either Tomcat 3.3 either Tomcat 4.0.
 
 Our
 
product work fine with Tomcat 4.0 and Tomcat 3.2.4.
Our customers develop their applications using Tomcat 3.2.4 and so it is
easy for them to a have a free environment then if they wish they can
go to a commercial server.

As tomcat 4.0 provides some efficient way to manage log .., compilation
JSP, a standard taglib (JSTL)  compatible. We are asking ourself if it
is a good way to upgrade to Tomcat 4.0 or Tomcat 3.3. Because TC 3.3 is
servlet 2.2 and jsp 1.1 compatible, instead Tomcat 4.0 is servlet 2.3
and jsp 1.2 compatible. Most of the commercials products are
working today on 2.2 and 1.1 platform so this is why we are asking this?
We want to keep a compatibility with S 2.2, JSP 1.1 . If any of you have
some responses
they are very welcomed.


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extends JSP

2002-10-14 Thread Thomas Colin de Verdière

Hello,
is there any constraints in extending a JSP :
i use %@ page extends=myjsp %
is there any performance issue ? 

Thanks

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Re: extends JSP

2002-10-14 Thread Thomas Colin de Verdière

do you know if there are any constraints except these defined in JSP 8.2.4

Thanks for any help or experience

Thomas Colin de Verdière wrote:
 Hello,
 is there any constraints in extending a JSP :
 i use %@ page extends=myjsp %
 is there any performance issue ?
 Thanks
 

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