Re: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-11 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Bob Jamison wrote: > Hi, all, > > Will 4.1 be read-visible in the "cvspublic" repository? > Ooops ... forgot a couple steps. The two new repositories ("jakarta-tomcat-4.1" and "jakarta-servletapi-4") are now visible to anonymous CVS. Web site updates are forthcoming. > > Bob Jamison > LinCom

Re: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-11 Thread Bob Jamison
Craig R. McClanahan wrote: > > > (2) Tomcat 4.1 Repository > > As we approach a release quality build for Tomcat 4.0, it is also time to split > the development of major new functionality (such as the distributed session > management currently under discussion) into a development process that

Re: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-08 Thread Sam Ruby
Jon Stevens wrote: > When you do a cvs co jakarta-tomcat-4.0, then you will get > a directory on your hard disk with 4.0. If you then want > to check out 4.1, you need to first reaname > jakarta-tomcat-4.0 to something else, then checkout 4.1 > on the branch, then rename it to something else, the

Re: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-07 Thread James Duncan Davidson
On 1/3/01 4:13 PM, "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Branches tend to be less visible to project newcomers -- > for example, anyone who checks out the main branch of > "jakarta-tomcat" today is going to wonder why it is quite > different from the 3.2.1 source distribution that

Re: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-07 Thread James Duncan Davidson
On 1/3/01 4:02 PM, "Jon Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When you do a cvs co jakarta-tomcat-4.0, then you will get a directory on > your hard disk with 4.0. If you then want to check out 4.1, you need to > first reaname jakarta-tomcat-4.0 to something else, then checkout 4.1 on the > branch

Re: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-05 Thread Jon Stevens
on 1/5/2001 6:51 AM, "Paulo Gaspar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tomcat has the same problem as Struts and most Open Source > projects (it is not just an Apache thing): > * NOT ENOUGH DOCUMENTATION * Sigh, this is a lame request now. We could write documentation until we are blue in the face and

RE: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-05 Thread Marc Saegesser
. > -Original Message- > From: Kief Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 9:43 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories > > > Marc Saegesser typed the following on 08:12 AM 1/5/2001 -0600 > >I

RE: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-05 Thread Kief Morris
Marc Saegesser typed the following on 08:12 AM 1/5/2001 -0600 >I don't see the need for branch until Tomcat 4.0 Final is relased. Until >then, from a source control perspective, a beta release is no different than >a milestone release. In short, what code would ever be checked into "main" >that w

RE: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-05 Thread Paulo Gaspar
Tomcat has the same problem as Struts and most Open Source projects (it is not just an Apache thing): * NOT ENOUGH DOCUMENTATION * In the case of the Jakarta projects the APIs documentation is usually quite satisfactory but the Introductions, HOW-TOs, User Guides, Architecture and other overv

RE: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-05 Thread Marc Saegesser
> (1) Tomcat 4.0 Beta 1 -0. I don't see the need for branch until Tomcat 4.0 Final is relased. Until then, from a source control perspective, a beta release is no different than a milestone release. In short, what code would ever be checked into "main" that would not also belong on the branch?

RE: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-05 Thread GOMEZ Henri
>I don't see any problem - there are 2 codebases - the >"original" tomcat ( >3.x ) and catalina ( 4.x ). You're in the project but imagine when a new user arrive and want to use a servlet engine ;-) The question will be must I use 3.2, 3.3, 4.0 or 4.1 ?-) A simple help rule could be : - If yo

Re: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-04 Thread Hans Bergsten
"Craig R. McClanahan" wrote: > > Now that we've all recovered from New Years (and watched Oregon State teach > Notre Dame a few things about football -- go Beavers! :-), it's time to lay out > the next steps in Tomcat 4.0's lifetime. Here's what I propose: > > (1) Tomcat 4.0 Beta 1 > [...] prop

RE: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-04 Thread cmanolache
> >so +1 , but i continue to not see any advantages in maintain another > >repository.. > > > > Like Nacho I turn my -1 to +1 since I don't want the TC 4.x development > to be stopped or features freezed but I feel that It will became > hard to find our way in 3.2, 3.3, 4.0 and 4.1 I don't see a

RE: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-04 Thread GOMEZ Henri
>so +1 , but i continue to not see any advantages in maintain another >repository.. > Like Nacho I turn my -1 to +1 since I don't want the TC 4.x development to be stopped or features freezed but I feel that It will became hard to find our way in 3.2, 3.3, 4.0 and 4.1 ---

RE: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-04 Thread Marc Saegesser
nahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:34 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories > > > Marc Saegesser wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Craig R. McClanahan [

Re: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-04 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Marc Saegesser wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > (1) Tomcat 4.0 Beta 1 > > > > The existing "jakarta-tomcat-4.0" repository will be branched with label > > "tomcat_40_branch", and each 4.0.x beta and release will receive > > a l

RE: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-04 Thread Marc Saegesser
> -Original Message- > From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > (1) Tomcat 4.0 Beta 1 > > The existing "jakarta-tomcat-4.0" repository will be branched with label > "tomcat_40_branch", and each 4.0.x beta and release will receive > a label such as > "tomcat_40_b1". The "ma

RE: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-04 Thread Sam Ruby
GOMEZ Henri wrote: > > -1 - We'll have now 3.2, 3.3, 4.0 and 4.1 branches > Too many branches for the same project. > Please don't reopen a 3.x against 4.x campaign. Henri, I would like to ask you to voluntarily remove your -1. The only way to make progress towards a 4.0 release is to sl

Re: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-03 Thread Glenn Nielsen
Glenn Nielsen wrote: > > "Craig R. McClanahan" wrote: > > > > Now that we've all recovered from New Years (and watched Oregon State teach > > Notre Dame a few things about football -- go Beavers! :-), it's time to lay out > > the next steps in Tomcat 4.0's lifetime. Here's what I propose: > > >

Re: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-03 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Dan Milstein wrote: > > > > On the other hand, a separate repository causes no problems that I've > > experienced, and avoids all of the issues listed above. > > I agree that branches under CVS are way, way confusing, and so I'll support a >separate repository. The one disadvantage I do see, ho

Re: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-03 Thread Dan Milstein
> > On the other hand, a separate repository causes no problems that I've > experienced, and avoids all of the issues listed above. I agree that branches under CVS are way, way confusing, and so I'll support a separate repository. The one disadvantage I do see, however, is that we'll lose the

RE: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-03 Thread Nacho
Hola Jon: > The problem is that say you are working on 4.0 and 4.1 at the > same time. > I do this with branches ( cocoon2 , 3.2 , 3.X ) all the time, only by using another directory.. > When you do a cvs co jakarta-tomcat-4.0, then you will get a > directory on > your hard disk with 4.0. If

Re: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-03 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Nacho wrote: > > (1) Tomcat 4.0 Beta 1 > > > > +1 > > > > > (2) Tomcat 4.1 Repository > > > > > > -1 > > Please explain what are the problem with branches, i dont see why label > a branch with tomcat_40 and do 4.1 development in head branch is bad, i > dont see any desestabilization or such in th

RE: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-03 Thread Nacho
Hola a TOdos: > > (2) Tomcat 4.1 Repository > > > > > I've changed my opinion, it's the same so +1 , but i continue to not see any advantages in maintain another repository.. Saludos , Ignacio J. Ortega - To unsubscribe

Re: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-03 Thread Jon Stevens
on 1/3/2001 3:55 PM, "Nacho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please explain what are the problem with branches, i dont see why label > a branch with tomcat_40 and do 4.1 development in head branch is bad, i > dont see any desestabilization or such in this way of doing things, i > want to know why is

RE: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-03 Thread Nacho
> (1) Tomcat 4.0 Beta 1 > +1 > > (2) Tomcat 4.1 Repository > > -1 Please explain what are the problem with branches, i dont see why label a branch with tomcat_40 and do 4.1 development in head branch is bad, i dont see any desestabilization or such in this way of doing things, i want to k

Re: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-03 Thread Jon Stevens
on 1/3/2001 1:48 PM, "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > NOTE: There will be a short period of time where "double posting" of bug fix > patches will be required (which will end when we stop doing 4.0.x maintenance > releases because 4.1.x is stable). The developer effort to do th

Re: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-03 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
GOMEZ Henri wrote: > > >(2) Tomcat 4.1 Repository > > -1 - We'll have now 3.2, 3.3, 4.0 and 4.1 branches > Too many branches for the same project. > Please don't reopen a 3.x against 4.x campaign. > I'm not ... nothing in the proposal says anything at all about anything labelled "Tom

Re: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-03 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
Glenn Nielsen wrote: > "Craig R. McClanahan" wrote: > > > The existing "jakarta-tomcat-4.0" repository will be branched with label > > "tomcat_40_branch", and each 4.0.x beta and release will receive a label such as > > "tomcat_40_b1". The "main" branch of this repository will be active for bug

RE: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-03 Thread GOMEZ Henri
>(1) Tomcat 4.0 Beta 1 +1 - Need to enter Beta process >(2) Tomcat 4.1 Repository -1 - We'll have now 3.2, 3.3, 4.0 and 4.1 branches Too many branches for the same project. Please don't reopen a 3.x against 4.x campaign. >(3) New "jakarta-servletapi-4.0" CVS Repository +1 ---

Re: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-03 Thread Glenn Nielsen
"Craig R. McClanahan" wrote: > > Now that we've all recovered from New Years (and watched Oregon State teach > Notre Dame a few things about football -- go Beavers! :-), it's time to lay out > the next steps in Tomcat 4.0's lifetime. Here's what I propose: > > (1) Tomcat 4.0 Beta 1 > > The cod

Re: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-03 Thread Pierre Delisle
> (1) Tomcat 4.0 Beta 1 +1 > (2) Tomcat 4.1 Repository +1 > (3) New "jakarta-servletapi-4.0" CVS Repository +1 -- Pierre - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTES] Tomcat 4.0-Beta-1 and New CVS Repositories

2001-01-02 Thread Remy Maucherat
> Now that we've all recovered from New Years (and watched Oregon State teach > Notre Dame a few things about football -- go Beavers! :-), it's time to lay out > the next steps in Tomcat 4.0's lifetime. Here's what I propose: > > > > (1) Tomcat 4.0 Beta 1 > > The code for Tomcat 4.0 has proven to