Re: commons-modeler in jtc and catalina

2003-02-27 Thread Jeanfrancois Arcand


Costin Manolache wrote:

Jeanfrancois Arcand wrote:

 

Costin,

are you planning to tag the modeler workspace to reflect all you recent
changes (once they are completed of course)? Something like
MODELER_2_0_alpha (I'm not good for name) will be helpfull. Also, is
this module supposed to build by itself? Right now the build.xml has a
dependency on jakarta-commons. Bundling Tomcat 5 source creates huge zip
file (50mg) mostly due to jakarta-commons source dependency.  If the
dependency is not required, I would be happy to help fixing the
build.xml..
   

It wouldn't be bad if the source zip would include the commons code that we
use - modeler, logging, digester, beanutils, collections. 
But you can fix it to include only tomcat-specific code, since commons
has its own src distribution.

Actually, this is what I'm doing, except I also include all the 
jakarta-commons. I guess I should change my script to only include the 
required one.

I don't know if you follow the discussion on the repository - it'll 
probably affect us a lot. If things settle down and an agreement is reached
- we should modify our build acordingly. That may mean we'll have to
include version numbers in jars ( if this is voted ), start downloading and 
uploading to the repository, etc.

Yes I'm following the discussion (read you post :-) )

Probably the some of the download script could be replaced with ruper or
some other task ( I hope Ant1.6 will include such a thing by default ).
Regarding the tag - I think it would be a good idea to tag it with each
milestone of tomcat5. 

OK.

BTW - in order to release modeler we need at least 3 +1 votes - so far I
feel a bit alone :-) Is anyone else interested in this piece ?
I am :-) If I can collaborate, guide me to what we need to do for 
releasing it :-)

-- Jeanfrancois

Costin

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Re: commons-modeler in jtc and catalina

2003-02-27 Thread Costin Manolache
Jeanfrancois Arcand wrote:

BTW - in order to release modeler we need at least 3 +1 votes - so far I
feel a bit alone :-) Is anyone else interested in this piece ?

 
 I am :-) If I can collaborate, guide me to what we need to do for
 releasing it :-)

I don't know :-) 

I'm just fixing itches as I discover them. The thing I miss the most is
feedback - has anyone tried the embed target ? Was anyone able to run
tomcat using the JMX ant tasks ? 

Some time ago I checked in a feature that allow people to add/remove/restart
Contexts using exclusively JMX. Has anyone used this ? Is it worth doing
the same for connectors and other components ?

Modeler is mostly driven by tomcat JMX-ification. The code is as stable as
it allways was - I don't think I broke any existing API. The new features 
to support beans that are not explicitely declared in the descriptors.xml
file seem to work fine and seems stable. 

The main issue is the new APIs - since they evolved based on the various
needs in tomcat. A release would froze them - and they had almost no
external feedback. In general - I have the feeling I'm the only user of
the new features - and that is really bad and it slows everything down. 


Costin



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Re: commons-modeler in jtc and catalina

2003-02-26 Thread Remy Maucherat
Henri Gomez wrote:
It seems that latest JTC / CATALINA require now a post 1.0 modeler.

Did there is release plan for modeler 1.1 ?
As it is the central piece of the JMX features in Tomcat 5.0, I don't 
think we are ready for a freeze-and-release yet.

Remy

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Re: commons-modeler in jtc and catalina

2003-02-26 Thread Remy Maucherat
Henri Gomez wrote:
Remy Maucherat wrote:

Henri Gomez wrote:

It seems that latest JTC / CATALINA require now a post 1.0 modeler.

Did there is release plan for modeler 1.1 ?


As it is the central piece of the JMX features in Tomcat 5.0, I don't 
think we are ready for a freeze-and-release yet.


Ok, so I'll have to include the HEAD modeler in my eclipse.
At least for now. You can use the download target to build it easily.

Remy

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Re: commons-modeler in jtc and catalina

2003-02-26 Thread Costin Manolache
Henri Gomez wrote:

 Remy Maucherat wrote:
 Henri Gomez wrote:
 
 It seems that latest JTC / CATALINA require now a post 1.0 modeler.

 Did there is release plan for modeler 1.1 ?

I think it'll be better called 2.0 - there are many big changes ( even
if it should be backward compatible ).

The best plan for a modeler release is: just before tomcat5.0. We can
start building milestones or betas for modeler.

 As it is the central piece of the JMX features in Tomcat 5.0, I don't
 think we are ready for a freeze-and-release yet.
 
 Ok, so I'll have to include the HEAD modeler in my eclipse.

That's the best choice. 

There are few more changes comming up - to improve the lifecycle and
more interface cleanup, and I'm still working on the notifications. 
In any case - the code that is used by tomcat5 standalone should be
very stable, most of the changes affect only tomcat5 embed ( or minimal ).
Switching to notifications in jk and coyote would be nice - but I don't 
think it is critical ( we can very well release with the current model ).



Costin


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