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yield document contains no data errors from the browser; and
redirecting people to the landing page may hide broken links (read:
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up with a nightmare long-term.
Using an exploded-dir format webapp would require the least work on your
part. While it's not techically required by the spec (only WAR files
are required, when I last checked), I'd doubt there are any containers
that don't support it.
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fully-qualified path to the external file. There's no such idea as a
relative file location when it comes to webapps.
What would be in this external config file?
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would explicitly define load order: the start script would start app1 in
instance1, then app2 i instance2.
That said, the spec doesn't cover this, as well it shouldn't -- apps should
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are the symptoms of the
problem? What do you mean by out of control? -and how is the
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I don't have such an example readily available... there should be plenty
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--cookies=on)
I don't know off the top of my head, but you could (temporarily) enable
RequestDumperValve and compare the two requests.
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, then move your files under
WEB-INF.
(As a side note, how are you loading these properties files? If you put
them under WEB-INF/classes, you can use the classloader...)
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, your migration
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people write a ServletFilter that checks
for said object and, if it doesn't exist, creates/populates it.
(Of course, the filter should only be mapped to protected areas; it is
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(inside the Context/ attribute of
server.xml, or inside context.xml) and restarting Tomcat should have
done it.
You mention you inherited this setup. Perhaps the old admins had setup
a watchdog job, and that's what triggers restarts?
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On Thu, Jun 02, 2005 at 05:37:23PM -0700, Wendy Smoak wrote:
: Any idea why String.contains(String) wouldn't work within Tomcat 4.1 on
: HP-UX and Java 1.5?
Doesn't Tomcat 4.1 even support JDK 1.5?
Are you using 1.5 to build, run, or both?
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Well, then, don't do it. When you have a case that leaves you no choice
but to break the standards, then do it. Otherwise, don't.
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anything in the Tomcat tree.
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For pure bug-hunting purposes, someone on the list once recommended
(temporarily) setting the min/max connections to 1. Click around your
site for a bit. When you hit a page that can't get a connection, you
know the previous one left it open. ;)
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: listeners to minimize inter-app dependencies.
What about separating each app into its own Tomcat instance (see the
docs on CATALINA_BASE vs CATALINA_HOST)? You could then have a single
master script that starts them in the order you require?
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On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 03:42:22PM -0700, Steve Jacobson wrote:
: We have been looking for a comprehensive System Administrator's Guide
: for Tomcat, that looks at Tomcat from the perspective of a System
: Administrator that needs to deploy tomcat and applications on tomcat.
So far, so
is that the former is searched first.
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I think {char} is a # but don't quote me on that...
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}
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Either way, someone will have to configure the connections for the
non-webapp code; one convenience provided by containers is that they
take care of instantiating/configuring the DataSource for you (based on
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(see text below) with a partial
: stack trace indicating a missing class definition for
: javax.xml.soap.SOAPException.
Which JAR holds this class def? -or are there multiple JARs that do
this? Do they exist in multiple classloaders?
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are associated with it. Have I got something wrong in
: the context file?
Where is the context file, inside a WAR or in an exploded-directory
webapp?
For the former, it should be called context.xml.
For the latter, it should be in
{catalina_home}/conf/{server}/{engine}/{host}/{name.xml}
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/ and servlet-mapping/ entries for those servlets. This is a
one-time hit that will pay off long-term.
: Will tomcat be using hugely more memory than jserv was ?
Depends on your app. Only a load test + profiling will let you know.
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recall these points are explained (either in the main docs or in the
various Digester articles on the web).
The short version:
1/ Digester#parse()
2/ Digester#parse()
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filters aren't part of Tomcat;
they're part of the Servlet Spec (which Tomcat implements).
Search the web for servlet filter or just check out the Servlet Spec
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On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 02:19:15PM -0700, Kevin Burton wrote:
: So its clearly not JUST reflected methods its something else on top of
: it
What does your profiler report?
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()). That call sets group membership.
Do you need jsvc to run Tomcat on a privileged port? If not, you could
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of just
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. I've done this before, I just don't
have any examples right in front of me.
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program bailed out.
(The other option would have been for jsvc to see whether the requested
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is the
: allowLinking=true flag. but, I cannot figure out where to put
: this...
It's an attr, I think for Context/. Scan the online docs for
allowLinking and it should turn up.
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Tomcat not use reflection (without
completely hacking the source) perhaps you could share more details of
what you're doing... that may give the rest of us insight to help you
trim the bottlenecks more. i.e. you mention lots of looping and
tag nesting; is there any way to change how that's done?
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; maybe someone at your site put in a mapping for .asp as
well...?
Another thought -- do you access Tomcat directly, or do you go through
Apache as an intermediary?
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, such that when
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: -Original Message-
: From: Michael Marrotte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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: To: tomcat-dev@jakarta.apache.org
: Subject: Tomcat Cluster + File Sharing
:
: My post to the user list
take it :)
I suppose what I don't understand is, what is dynamic here? Are you
talking a menu that's regenerated at each request (in case new menu
items have been added) or something else?
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to be free to have my hieracial
: wiki-like system deliver content by different means of processing -
: dynamic JSP's being the missing link.
What is a dynamic JSP?
: Up until now, no filter or front-controller can control the origin or
: WAR-resources.
?
Please explain.
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. The end-user
doesn't know they're hitting a virtual resource and, quite frankly, they
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Read up on the Front Controller, Page Controller, and Decorator
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: tomcat 5.* are not usable for production...
Sounds like a lack of doc update. I use Axis with Tomcat 5.0 without a
problem... and 5.5 implements the same servlet spec as 5.0.
In theory, then, Tomcat 5.5 and Axis 1.2 should be a happy pair.
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On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 10:59:52AM -0500, jefou wrote:
: I have setup Solaris 10 OS on AMD64 and I am trying to build the JK connector
for Apache2 with Tomcat5, but I am not having any success at all with neither
the Solaris nor the GNU gcc compiler.
What errors do you see?
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hanging problem, as well as
the too-many-threads problem.]
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for the data to be there when the browser
makes its request. One such way would be to have a self-refreshing iframe
(or whatever) that keeps contacting the server. That would be quite
chatty, however, so it may or may not be suitable for your situation.
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it in
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a way around this; so just specify (a
subdirectory of) java.io.tmpdir as the work directory, and that should
(sort of) cover you.
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inside packed WAR files,
if that's how you're running.
If you're streaming images, why not place them outside of the webapp?
That lets the images and the webapp vary independently.
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If you really think you've found a bug, wrap it up in a test case and
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to the SSL-enabled
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the files in the database.
This setup wouldn't sync with the existing (system) user/password
tables, but for most of the webapps I've seen/written, this is a
feature. =)
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Feel free to give that a skim.
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programming practice. As such, they're not allowed
under servlet spec 2.4.
Is this question in the wiki/FAQ? (I can't check right now.)
It seems to come up often enough.
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2/ a JMS message, to be handled by a dedicated listener
(again, in-container or otherwise)
These solutions have the added benefits of not being tied to your
servlet code. (Think modularity and ease of testing, among other
things.)
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an old (unrelated) message confuses thread-aware mailers, which makes
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. ;)
With that in mind, context isoliation and scheduled maintenance/downtime
windows are fairly standard practices in the J2EE realm. While they
don't directly address your concern of completely reloading a context,
they tangentially address your desire to start and stop Tomcat whenever
you please.
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, but POST does not.
1/ at the risk of sounding flippant, diff the two code bases and see
what changed
2/ you'll have to elaborate on what doesn't work: error messages in the
browser, log messages, etc.
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all -- but it contains what every
servlet developer should know. Sticking to spec-compliant code will
make your apps container-agnostic, such that you can use Tomcat,
WebLogic, etc with little difficulty.
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the overhead that may be overkill if you use it just for site branding.
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on the Tomcat-specific classes.
: My usage of it was
: container manage and requires reformatting Resource
: therefore I don't have the need for recompilations.
Now I see what you mean. I originally thought your code was
directly calling the (now-repackaged) classes.
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of Tomcat you run; but if it's 4.1 or later
(maybe 4.0 and later?) you can take advantage of servlet filters.
They're part of the servlet spec (2.3 and later) so using them won't tie
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) and are conservative about upgrades (to avoid being
the first to encounter a bug) then maybe you'll do alright on your own.
(Well, it also helps to keep up with the servlet spec and follow best
practices for J2EE development, but that goes for any container ;)
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On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 03:57:28PM -0600, Trice, Jim wrote:
: [snip]
: RedHat support for Tomcat? We're currently running Tomcat 4.1 and would have
: to upgrade to 5.5 to get support from RedHat. Is it worth it?
by the way, in response to your question Is it worth it? -- did you
mean RedHat's
for the heap. In turn, the heap
is the raw memory space where the JVM creates objects.
The JVM often uses more memory than the heap for its internal
housekeeping and such. I don't recall having seen it use as much as 3-4
times the heap allocation, but I suppose it's possible.
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kernels show threads as separate processes. That's likely what you're
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the line. If at all possible, consider refactoring the data access
of your app such that this isn't an issue.
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collection an issue?
If you're waiting for finalizers to do your cleanup work for you, yes.
: I'm asking about encapsulating into the finalize()
: methods because I don't like the asthetics of all the
: close/=null + finally statements.
Again, your call.
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threads are
properly terminated at container shutdown. Tomcat won't do that for
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many of the apps as individual apps. So somehow I
: would like to call another context and then have SiteMesh decorate the
: response.
Are you using this setup for branding, then, or something else? I may
have some suggestions, but knowing your end-goal may help.
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familiar with Tomcat and know what to look for,
this is the way to go.
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format).
You can achieve what you're after by moving the merge into your build
process -- that is, have Ant (or whatever you use) create the dir/WAR by
copying all of those webapps to it (that is, copy them over one
another).
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know in advance where to start looking.
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access to (depends on) a class in a child
classloader, it will never find it, and the system throws a
NoClassDefFoundError.
It's for a similar reason one webapp can't see another webapp's classes:
they only have a relationship with their parent classloader, and not
that of their siblings.
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JK2 had some features over JK(1), but those have already been
backported or developers are in the process of doing so.
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myriad non-browser clients out there besides wget, and you'll have a
devil of a time fending the all off.
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expression-language syntax (e.g. ${vhost.defs}), though I haven't
researched this.
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you may also see a boost from running JDK 1.5.
That said, there are a lot of app-specific considerations here. The
only way to be certain is to deploy your app under Tomcat 5.5 and find
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, OS, etc). There are several versions of Tomcat.
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.. it doesnt work, all I see is null.
In addition to Tim Funk's advice, I'd suggest you post the code. A
one-letter typo can cause all sorts of headaches =)
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For the life of me, I can't remember this parm right now, but I've seen
it here and there.
Search the archives for Too many open files and my e-mail address.
You should turn up a post in which I've answered this question before.
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