RE: Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move to JDK 1.5

2005-05-27 Thread Steve Kirk

I think these are both in the release/changes notes that I posted a link to
earlier in this thread - so yes these are real issues.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Leone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday 27 May 2005 02:14
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order 
 to move to JDK 1.5
 
 
 Sounds like the consensus is that Tomcat 5.0.x will work with 
 jdk 1.5. 
 FWIW I found the following two problems trying to run code 
 built for jre 
 1.4 in a 1.5 jvm.
 
 1. A couple DOM classes (don't remember which ones, but 
 you'll know it 
 if you run in to them) had some methods added in jdk 1.5. If 
 you try to 
 load an implementation class for one of these that was 
 developed in jdk 
 1.4, you'll get missing method implementation errors. To resolve, you 
 can add empty method specifications for the classes that 
 require them, 
 or upgrade to an XML parser that was written for jdk 1.5.
 
 2. JDK 1.5 uses the symbol enum as a reserved keyword. 
 You'll have to 
 change any and all occurrences of this symbol in your code 
 (where it is 
 used as a variable name) to something else, e.g. enumer.
 
 There may be other backward compatibility issues, but these 
 are the two 
 that I've run into.
 
 -Mark
 
 Tim Diggins wrote:
 
  And, oops, I'm sorry for spreading the original FUD - 
 Following this 
  thread, I've just tried again to get everything working on 
  tc5.0/jdk1.5 and hey-presto, everything ok - guess I must've had TC 
  running on jdk1.4 after all...
 
  But planning to migrate to 5.5 anyway.
 
  thanks everyone
 
  T
 
 
  Steve Kirk wrote:
 
  Yes sorry, david is correct, I got it backwards.
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: David Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday 26 May 
  2005 12:59
  To: Tomcat Users List
  Subject: Re: Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in 
 order to move 
  to JDK 1.5
 
 
  Small correction -- 5.5 needs the compat package to work 
 on jdk l.4, 
  not 5.0 needs it to work on jdk 1.5. I've used TC 5.0  jdk 1.5 
  together no problem.
 
  --David
 
  Steve Kirk wrote:
 
 
  You can run 5.0.28 on jdk1.5 but you need to add a 
 
 
  compatibility package
 
  which is available from the tc downloads page.  Basically it 
 
 
  adds 3 jars to
 
  fix issues with xml compatibility with the 1.4 vm.
 
  I haven't done it myself (I upgraded both at once) but 
 
 
  google some of these
 
  words and you can read all about it.
 
  PS if you do go to 5.5 and have DBCP, be sure to change your 
 
 
  context.xml to
 
  the new format required by TC5.5.  I spent nearly 3 days 
 
 
  working that out.
 
 
 
 
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  From: Raverkar, Sachin (Sachin) 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 
  Thursday 26 May 2005 08:58
  To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
  Subject: Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order 
 to move to 
  JDK 1.5
 
 
  Hi all,
  We are currently using Tomcat-5.0.28 and JDK 1.4.2_03.
  We need to move onto JDK 1.5. We would build our war file using 
  JDK 1.5.
  Can we continue to use Tomcat-5.0.28 with  JDK 1.5? Do 
 you see any 
  problem? Are there any known issues?
  Since Tomcat 5.5 is designed to run on J2SE 5.0 [JDK 
 1.5] and later,
  are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move 
 to JDK 1.5?
 
  - Sachin
 



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Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move to JDK 1.5

2005-05-26 Thread Raverkar, Sachin \(Sachin\)
Hi all, 
 
We are currently using Tomcat-5.0.28 and JDK 1.4.2_03.
We need to move onto JDK 1.5. We would build our war file using JDK 1.5.
Can we continue to use Tomcat-5.0.28 with  JDK 1.5? 
Do you see any problem? Are there any known issues?
Since Tomcat 5.5 is designed to run on J2SE 5.0 [JDK 1.5] and later,
are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move to JDK 1.5?
 
- Sachin


Re: Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move to JDK 1.5

2005-05-26 Thread Tim Diggins
I'm not an expert, but I believe (from experience  previous googling) 
that tomcat 5.0.x will respond with an exception 
(IncorrectClassFileFormat or something) when it encounters class files 
compiled with jdk1.5, and that thus yes you need 5.5.


There are some recent threads about migrating from 5.0 to 5.5, in 
particular I recall discussion of change of default logging library.


-- Tim

Raverkar, Sachin (Sachin) wrote:
Hi all, 
 
We are currently using Tomcat-5.0.28 and JDK 1.4.2_03.

We need to move onto JDK 1.5. We would build our war file using JDK 1.5.
Can we continue to use Tomcat-5.0.28 with  JDK 1.5? 
Do you see any problem? Are there any known issues?

Since Tomcat 5.5 is designed to run on J2SE 5.0 [JDK 1.5] and later,
are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move to JDK 1.5?
 
- Sachin





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Re: Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move to JDK 1.5

2005-05-26 Thread delbd
Exception about class file format would be encountered only if tomcat would be 
run on a jvm 1.4 and you deploy a war containing 1.5 compiled classes.

If you run tomcat with jvm 1.5 it should be able to load classes from a war 
containing 1.5 compiled classes. 
The main problem which could arise is if tomcat 5.0.x uses a java class or 
method which disappeared on jvm1.5. Just give it a try :)


Le Jeudi 26 Mai 2005 11:28, Tim Diggins a écrit :
 I'm not an expert, but I believe (from experience  previous googling)
 that tomcat 5.0.x will respond with an exception
 (IncorrectClassFileFormat or something) when it encounters class files
 compiled with jdk1.5, and that thus yes you need 5.5.

 There are some recent threads about migrating from 5.0 to 5.5, in
 particular I recall discussion of change of default logging library.

 -- Tim

 Raverkar, Sachin (Sachin) wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  We are currently using Tomcat-5.0.28 and JDK 1.4.2_03.
  We need to move onto JDK 1.5. We would build our war file using JDK 1.5.
  Can we continue to use Tomcat-5.0.28 with  JDK 1.5?
  Do you see any problem? Are there any known issues?
  Since Tomcat 5.5 is designed to run on J2SE 5.0 [JDK 1.5] and later,
  are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move to JDK 1.5?
 
  - Sachin

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RE: Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move to JDK 1.5

2005-05-26 Thread Steve Kirk

 The main problem which could arise is if tomcat 5.0.x uses a 
 java class or 
 method which disappeared on jvm1.5

This would be doc'd in 1.5 release notes, didn't notice anything relevant
when I upgraded: 
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/compatibility.html 

Also, why would the TC team release a compatibility package for 5.5 on 1.4
if they thought it wouldn't run anyway?

As delbd says, give it a try.



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RE: Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move to JDK 1.5

2005-05-26 Thread Steve Kirk
You can run 5.0.28 on jdk1.5 but you need to add a compatibility package
which is available from the tc downloads page.  Basically it adds 3 jars to
fix issues with xml compatibility with the 1.4 vm.

I haven't done it myself (I upgraded both at once) but google some of these
words and you can read all about it.

PS if you do go to 5.5 and have DBCP, be sure to change your context.xml to
the new format required by TC5.5.  I spent nearly 3 days working that out.

 -Original Message-
 From: Raverkar, Sachin (Sachin) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday 26 May 2005 08:58
 To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
 Subject: Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to 
 move to JDK 1.5
 
 
 Hi all, 
  
 We are currently using Tomcat-5.0.28 and JDK 1.4.2_03.
 We need to move onto JDK 1.5. We would build our war file 
 using JDK 1.5.
 Can we continue to use Tomcat-5.0.28 with  JDK 1.5? 
 Do you see any problem? Are there any known issues?
 Since Tomcat 5.5 is designed to run on J2SE 5.0 [JDK 1.5] and later,
 are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move to JDK 1.5?
  
 - Sachin
 



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RE: Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move to JDK 1.5

2005-05-26 Thread Steve Kirk

I was not looking forward to reconfiguring logging, as it'd always been an
area that generated some confusion, but if anything logging is easier on 5.5
than 5.0 IMHO.

I had Loggers configured in 5.0, but these are redundant in 5.5, so I have
no logging config at all now - I just use the java.util.logging classes in
my servlet code (no changes at all since it ran on 5.0), and it works
perfectly for my needs without any config file at all.

 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Diggins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday 26 May 2005 10:28
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order 
 to move to JDK 1.5
 
 
 I'm not an expert, but I believe (from experience  previous 
 googling) 
 that tomcat 5.0.x will respond with an exception 
 (IncorrectClassFileFormat or something) when it encounters 
 class files 
 compiled with jdk1.5, and that thus yes you need 5.5.
 
 There are some recent threads about migrating from 5.0 to 5.5, in 
 particular I recall discussion of change of default logging library.
 
 -- Tim
 
 Raverkar, Sachin (Sachin) wrote:
  Hi all, 
   
  We are currently using Tomcat-5.0.28 and JDK 1.4.2_03.
  We need to move onto JDK 1.5. We would build our war file 
 using JDK 1.5.
  Can we continue to use Tomcat-5.0.28 with  JDK 1.5? 
  Do you see any problem? Are there any known issues?
  Since Tomcat 5.5 is designed to run on J2SE 5.0 [JDK 1.5] and later,
  are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move to JDK 1.5?
   
  - Sachin
  
 
 
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Re: Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move to JDK 1.5

2005-05-26 Thread David Smith
Small correction -- 5.5 needs the compat package to work on jdk l.4, not 
5.0 needs it to work on jdk 1.5. I've used TC 5.0  jdk 1.5 together no 
problem.


--David

Steve Kirk wrote:


You can run 5.0.28 on jdk1.5 but you need to add a compatibility package
which is available from the tc downloads page.  Basically it adds 3 jars to
fix issues with xml compatibility with the 1.4 vm.

I haven't done it myself (I upgraded both at once) but google some of these
words and you can read all about it.

PS if you do go to 5.5 and have DBCP, be sure to change your context.xml to
the new format required by TC5.5.  I spent nearly 3 days working that out.

 


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From: Raverkar, Sachin (Sachin) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday 26 May 2005 08:58

To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to 
move to JDK 1.5



Hi all, 


We are currently using Tomcat-5.0.28 and JDK 1.4.2_03.
We need to move onto JDK 1.5. We would build our war file 
using JDK 1.5.
Can we continue to use Tomcat-5.0.28 with  JDK 1.5? 
Do you see any problem? Are there any known issues?

Since Tomcat 5.5 is designed to run on J2SE 5.0 [JDK 1.5] and later,
are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move to JDK 1.5?

- Sachin

   





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RE: Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move to JDK 1.5

2005-05-26 Thread Steve Kirk
Yes sorry, david is correct, I got it backwards.

 -Original Message-
 From: David Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday 26 May 2005 12:59
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Subject: Re: Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order 
 to move to JDK 1.5
 
 
 Small correction -- 5.5 needs the compat package to work on 
 jdk l.4, not 
 5.0 needs it to work on jdk 1.5. I've used TC 5.0  jdk 1.5 
 together no 
 problem.
 
  --David
 
 Steve Kirk wrote:
 
 You can run 5.0.28 on jdk1.5 but you need to add a 
 compatibility package
 which is available from the tc downloads page.  Basically it 
 adds 3 jars to
 fix issues with xml compatibility with the 1.4 vm.
 
 I haven't done it myself (I upgraded both at once) but 
 google some of these
 words and you can read all about it.
 
 PS if you do go to 5.5 and have DBCP, be sure to change your 
 context.xml to
 the new format required by TC5.5.  I spent nearly 3 days 
 working that out.
 
   
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Raverkar, Sachin (Sachin) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday 26 May 2005 08:58
 To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
 Subject: Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to 
 move to JDK 1.5
 
 
 Hi all, 
  
 We are currently using Tomcat-5.0.28 and JDK 1.4.2_03.
 We need to move onto JDK 1.5. We would build our war file 
 using JDK 1.5.
 Can we continue to use Tomcat-5.0.28 with  JDK 1.5? 
 Do you see any problem? Are there any known issues?
 Since Tomcat 5.5 is designed to run on J2SE 5.0 [JDK 1.5] and later,
 are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move to JDK 1.5?
  
 - Sachin
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move to JDK 1.5

2005-05-26 Thread Tim Diggins
And, oops, I'm sorry for spreading the original FUD - Following this 
thread, I've just tried again to get everything working on tc5.0/jdk1.5 
and hey-presto, everything ok - guess I must've had TC running on jdk1.4 
after all...


But planning to migrate to 5.5 anyway.

thanks everyone

T


Steve Kirk wrote:

Yes sorry, david is correct, I got it backwards.



-Original Message-
From: David Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday 26 May 2005 12:59

To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order 
to move to JDK 1.5



Small correction -- 5.5 needs the compat package to work on 
jdk l.4, not 
5.0 needs it to work on jdk 1.5. I've used TC 5.0  jdk 1.5 
together no 
problem.


--David

Steve Kirk wrote:


You can run 5.0.28 on jdk1.5 but you need to add a 


compatibility package

which is available from the tc downloads page.  Basically it 


adds 3 jars to


fix issues with xml compatibility with the 1.4 vm.

I haven't done it myself (I upgraded both at once) but 


google some of these


words and you can read all about it.

PS if you do go to 5.5 and have DBCP, be sure to change your 


context.xml to

the new format required by TC5.5.  I spent nearly 3 days 


working that out.






-Original Message-
From: Raverkar, Sachin (Sachin) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday 26 May 2005 08:58

To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to 
move to JDK 1.5



Hi all, 


We are currently using Tomcat-5.0.28 and JDK 1.4.2_03.
We need to move onto JDK 1.5. We would build our war file 
using JDK 1.5.
Can we continue to use Tomcat-5.0.28 with  JDK 1.5? 
Do you see any problem? Are there any known issues?

Since Tomcat 5.5 is designed to run on J2SE 5.0 [JDK 1.5] and later,
are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move to JDK 1.5?

- Sachin

  





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Re: Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move to JDK 1.5

2005-05-26 Thread Mark Leone
Sounds like the consensus is that Tomcat 5.0.x will work with jdk 1.5. 
FWIW I found the following two problems trying to run code built for jre 
1.4 in a 1.5 jvm.


1. A couple DOM classes (don't remember which ones, but you'll know it 
if you run in to them) had some methods added in jdk 1.5. If you try to 
load an implementation class for one of these that was developed in jdk 
1.4, you'll get missing method implementation errors. To resolve, you 
can add empty method specifications for the classes that require them, 
or upgrade to an XML parser that was written for jdk 1.5.


2. JDK 1.5 uses the symbol enum as a reserved keyword. You'll have to 
change any and all occurrences of this symbol in your code (where it is 
used as a variable name) to something else, e.g. enumer.


There may be other backward compatibility issues, but these are the two 
that I've run into.


-Mark

Tim Diggins wrote:

And, oops, I'm sorry for spreading the original FUD - Following this 
thread, I've just tried again to get everything working on 
tc5.0/jdk1.5 and hey-presto, everything ok - guess I must've had TC 
running on jdk1.4 after all...


But planning to migrate to 5.5 anyway.

thanks everyone

T


Steve Kirk wrote:


Yes sorry, david is correct, I got it backwards.



-Original Message-
From: David Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday 26 May 
2005 12:59

To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move 
to JDK 1.5



Small correction -- 5.5 needs the compat package to work on jdk l.4, 
not 5.0 needs it to work on jdk 1.5. I've used TC 5.0  jdk 1.5 
together no problem.


--David

Steve Kirk wrote:


You can run 5.0.28 on jdk1.5 but you need to add a 



compatibility package

which is available from the tc downloads page.  Basically it 



adds 3 jars to


fix issues with xml compatibility with the 1.4 vm.

I haven't done it myself (I upgraded both at once) but 



google some of these


words and you can read all about it.

PS if you do go to 5.5 and have DBCP, be sure to change your 



context.xml to

the new format required by TC5.5.  I spent nearly 3 days 



working that out.






-Original Message-
From: Raverkar, Sachin (Sachin) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 
Thursday 26 May 2005 08:58

To: tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move to 
JDK 1.5



Hi all,
We are currently using Tomcat-5.0.28 and JDK 1.4.2_03.
We need to move onto JDK 1.5. We would build our war file using 
JDK 1.5.
Can we continue to use Tomcat-5.0.28 with  JDK 1.5? Do you see any 
problem? Are there any known issues?

Since Tomcat 5.5 is designed to run on J2SE 5.0 [JDK 1.5] and later,
are we required to move to Tomcat 5.5 in order to move to JDK 1.5?

- Sachin

 





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