Re: OT: sloppy English
i disaggree, unforuntealy i don't have time to perfom complete spel checks or fix grammar on all words. i try to be as coherent as possible but since i do this for free, you get what your pay for. please killfile me if it is that bothersome. I don't mind bad grammar and spelling. I detest those which don't read the docs, the faq and search the archives before asking a question. I'll take bad grammar over bad questions any day. -Tim Christopher Williams wrote: A lot of posts to this mailing list seem to use really lazy English: I consistently in lowercase, missing punctuation, missing capital letters at the start of sentences, etc. Two things: 1. A sentence which goes something like must i do x or can i do y is hard to read. 2. Writing like this makes you sound like a moron. We're all educated people or otherwise we wouldn't be computer programmers. So let's maintain some reasonable standards. Chris Williams. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT: sloppy English
Tim, Very well said...and understandable too. ;) -Original Message- From: Tim Funk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 11:05 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: OT: sloppy English i disaggree, unforuntealy i don't have time to perfom complete spel checks or fix grammar on all words. i try to be as coherent as possible but since i do this for free, you get what your pay for. please killfile me if it is that bothersome. I don't mind bad grammar and spelling. I detest those which don't read the docs, the faq and search the archives before asking a question. I'll take bad grammar over bad questions any day. -Tim Christopher Williams wrote: A lot of posts to this mailing list seem to use really lazy English: I consistently in lowercase, missing punctuation, missing capital letters at the start of sentences, etc. Two things: 1. A sentence which goes something like must i do x or can i do y is hard to read. 2. Writing like this makes you sound like a moron. We're all educated people or otherwise we wouldn't be computer programmers. So let's maintain some reasonable standards. Chris Williams. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: sloppy English
I would like to point out that English is not the first language of everyone on this list. Regards, Michele From: Christopher Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: sloppy English Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:48:28 +0100 A lot of posts to this mailing list seem to use really lazy English: I consistently in lowercase, missing punctuation, missing capital letters at the start of sentences, etc. Two things: 1. A sentence which goes something like must i do x or can i do y is hard to read. 2. Writing like this makes you sound like a moron. We're all educated people or otherwise we wouldn't be computer programmers. So let's maintain some reasonable standards. Chris Williams. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Help protect your PC. Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: sloppy English
I'd bet that every, native English speaking, person on this list can easily discern which posts are written by non-native English speakers and which are written by English speakers who are just being lazy and sloppy. I've never seen anyone who has made an honest attempt to post a question in their non-native tongue on this list attacked. I'm sure that the people to whom Chris was referring have been educated in English and should be able to construct and punctuate a sentence. On Monday 22 September 2003 01:18 pm, Michele Emmi wrote: I would like to point out that English is not the first language of everyone on this list. Regards, Michele From: Christopher Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Tomcat Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: sloppy English Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2003 17:48:28 +0100 A lot of posts to this mailing list seem to use really lazy English: I consistently in lowercase, missing punctuation, missing capital letters at the start of sentences, etc. Two things: 1. A sentence which goes something like must i do x or can i do y is hard to read. 2. Writing like this makes you sound like a moron. We're all educated people or otherwise we wouldn't be computer programmers. So let's maintain some reasonable standards. Chris Williams. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Help protect your PC. Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ben Souther F.W. Davison Company, Inc. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: sloppy English
i disaggree, unforuntealy i don't have time to perfom complete spel checks or fix grammar on all words. i try to be as coherent as possible but since i do this for free, you get what your pay for. please killfile me if it is that bothersome. I don't mind bad grammar and spelling. I detest those which don't read the docs, the faq and search the archives before asking a question. I'll take bad grammar over bad questions any day. Agreed, but the main point was in: - capital letters at the beginning of the sentence - capital I for first person - at least an attempt at punctuating sentences This IS a part of syntax of, perhaps not all, langauages of our users, but these rules should be common to most users visiting this list. I do acknowlege that there are languages that use different rules (japanese, chinese, arabic,...), but all users writing to this list are using character sets that are compliant with these rules. So, all that Christian asked for was to *re-read the message before posting* (a Goot Idea (tm)) and to make it more readable. That helps a lot to anyone who's reading the message. Perhaps his wording was a bit offensive, but he is right. Sometimes I couldn't understand what the poster was asking. I'll survive bad punctuation and capitalization, but it takes extratime for me and leaves me with a feeling that the poster was in a hurry or sloppy. Nix. P.S. Please feel free to point out any and all mistakes I've made. I like being correct and don't mind being corrected. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: sloppy English
If people read the Preface here (and its links): http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/faq/tomcatuser.html ... and follow it ... Then I'm a happy camper. ;) -Tim Nikola Milutinovic wrote: Agreed, but the main point was in: - capital letters at the beginning of the sentence - capital I for first person - at least an attempt at punctuating sentences This IS a part of syntax of, perhaps not all, langauages of our users, but these rules should be common to most users visiting this list. I do acknowlege that there are languages that use different rules (japanese, chinese, arabic,...), but all users writing to this list are using character sets that are compliant with these rules. So, all that Christian asked for was to *re-read the message before posting* (a Goot Idea (tm)) and to make it more readable. That helps a lot to anyone who's reading the message. Perhaps his wording was a bit offensive, but he is right. Sometimes I couldn't understand what the poster was asking. I'll survive bad punctuation and capitalization, but it takes extratime for me and leaves me with a feeling that the poster was in a hurry or sloppy. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
