Re: directory structure and porting issues

2004-04-12 Thread Veniamin Fichin
QM wrote:

: - Finally, is it the best practice to hard-code the 'context' prefix in 
: your application?

JSTL.  I forget the exact tag names, but any JSTL reference will have
them listed.  There's a tag for creating context-relative links, and (I
believe) one for creating context-relative image tags.
  Yes, William, take a look at JSTL specification, it's here: 
http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/final/jsr052/ . See subsection 
7.1 .

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RE: directory structure and porting issues

2004-04-12 Thread Shapira, Yoav

Hi,
Your problems arise because of imperfect/relaxed implementations of the
servlet spec by earlier containers.  Tomcat is strict.  I don't think
there's a double-meaning to 'context' personally but that's a minor
point anyways.  In addition to the spec, see this for directory
structures:
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.0-doc/appdev/index.html

Yoav Shapira
Millennium Research Informatics


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From: William Claxton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: directory structure and porting issues

Folks, hi -

I keep stumbling into porting issues when moving older servlet
applications
from Jrun or Servlet Exec to Tomcat.  A couple issues related to
directory
structure always seem to arise.

One issue is that an application expecting all servlets to be loaded
from a
single classpath may not have the 'context' prefix.  For example, an
application 'app1' that posts to '/servlet/Controller' may not work
unless
'app1' is defined as Tomcat's default context.  It would work if you
change
the code so that it posts to 'app1/servlet/Controller'.  But that's a
global change that hardcodes the context name.

Incidentally, I observed the same issue when changing the 'appbase' in
Tomcat's server.xml - the Tomcat home page is no longer accessible.
Even
if you create a new 'tomcat' context, the admin, manager and servlet
examples linked from Tomcat's homepage don't work.  A solution I found
works in Tomcat 5 is to create new contexts for each, such as:

Context path=tomcat/servlets-examples
   docBase=c:\apps\java\tomcat\webapps\servlets-examples debug=0 /

As I recall, this didn't work in Tomcat 4.

Another issue is that 'context' seems to function as both a
'script-alias'
and an 'alias' for static files, but with differing results.  For
example,
suppose that in the application called 'app1', I create a static web
page
that does 3 things:

- displays an image at 'app1/images/button.gif'
- loads a stylesheet from '/app1/includes/default.css'
- posts a form to '/app1/servlet/Controller'

It seems that the images and includes folders are expected to appear in
the
folder 'app1' directly below my appbase, whereas the Controller servlet
is
expected in the 'app1/WEB-INF/classes' folder.  This is different from
where these folders resided in other servlet containers that did not
use
'WEB-INF'. Apparently 'app1' is a 'script-alias' for servlets, and an
ordinary 'alias' for static files, with different meanings for each.
The
problem can be resolved if I use a connector to Apache or IIS, and then
create the 'alias' for static files in the web server.  But in a
standalone
instance of Tomcat there is no separate alias definition - 'context' is
the
only way to create aliases.

- Am I right about the double-meaning of 'context'?
- Do others experience similar porting issues?
- Is there an online guide that helps app developers select a directory
structure that is portable across servlet containers?
- Finally, is it the best practice to hard-code the 'context' prefix in
your application?

Cheers.



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Re: directory structure and porting issues

2004-04-12 Thread William Claxton
QM -

Thanks very much for your detailed reply.  I have Shawn Bayern's JSTL in 
Action, and you're right - the URL issue is covered.  I have also reviewed 
relevant portions of the Servlet Spec 2.4, which sets out the general 
approach to directory structure in applications.  It seems safest to place 
the 'context' prefix before any URL.

Cheers.

At 11:36 AM 4/10/04 -0500, you wrote:


: - Is there an online guide that helps app developers select a directory
: structure that is portable across servlet containers?
The servlet spec.

Do a search at java.sun.com for it.  You'll want 2.3 if you're running
Tomcat 4, or 2.4 if you're running Tomcat 5.  Either way, it's available
as a PDF.
As a Java web developer, the spec is your guide to webapp standards and
portability.  At the risk of sounding facetious, it answers all of your
questions except this one:
: - Finally, is it the best practice to hard-code the 'context' prefix in
: your application?
JSTL.  I forget the exact tag names, but any JSTL reference will have
them listed.  There's a tag for creating context-relative links, and (I
believe) one for creating context-relative image tags.
-QM

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directory structure and porting issues

2004-04-10 Thread William Claxton
Folks, hi -

I keep stumbling into porting issues when moving older servlet applications 
from Jrun or Servlet Exec to Tomcat.  A couple issues related to directory 
structure always seem to arise.

One issue is that an application expecting all servlets to be loaded from a 
single classpath may not have the 'context' prefix.  For example, an 
application 'app1' that posts to '/servlet/Controller' may not work unless 
'app1' is defined as Tomcat's default context.  It would work if you change 
the code so that it posts to 'app1/servlet/Controller'.  But that's a 
global change that hardcodes the context name.

Incidentally, I observed the same issue when changing the 'appbase' in 
Tomcat's server.xml - the Tomcat home page is no longer accessible.  Even 
if you create a new 'tomcat' context, the admin, manager and servlet 
examples linked from Tomcat's homepage don't work.  A solution I found 
works in Tomcat 5 is to create new contexts for each, such as:

Context path=tomcat/servlets-examples
  docBase=c:\apps\java\tomcat\webapps\servlets-examples debug=0 /
As I recall, this didn't work in Tomcat 4.

Another issue is that 'context' seems to function as both a 'script-alias' 
and an 'alias' for static files, but with differing results.  For example, 
suppose that in the application called 'app1', I create a static web page 
that does 3 things:

- displays an image at 'app1/images/button.gif'
- loads a stylesheet from '/app1/includes/default.css'
- posts a form to '/app1/servlet/Controller'
It seems that the images and includes folders are expected to appear in the 
folder 'app1' directly below my appbase, whereas the Controller servlet is 
expected in the 'app1/WEB-INF/classes' folder.  This is different from 
where these folders resided in other servlet containers that did not use 
'WEB-INF'. Apparently 'app1' is a 'script-alias' for servlets, and an 
ordinary 'alias' for static files, with different meanings for each.  The 
problem can be resolved if I use a connector to Apache or IIS, and then 
create the 'alias' for static files in the web server.  But in a standalone 
instance of Tomcat there is no separate alias definition - 'context' is the 
only way to create aliases.

- Am I right about the double-meaning of 'context'?
- Do others experience similar porting issues?
- Is there an online guide that helps app developers select a directory 
structure that is portable across servlet containers?
- Finally, is it the best practice to hard-code the 'context' prefix in 
your application?

Cheers.



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Re: directory structure and porting issues

2004-04-10 Thread QM


: - Is there an online guide that helps app developers select a directory 
: structure that is portable across servlet containers?

The servlet spec.

Do a search at java.sun.com for it.  You'll want 2.3 if you're running
Tomcat 4, or 2.4 if you're running Tomcat 5.  Either way, it's available
as a PDF. 


As a Java web developer, the spec is your guide to webapp standards and
portability.  At the risk of sounding facetious, it answers all of your
questions except this one:


: - Finally, is it the best practice to hard-code the 'context' prefix in 
: your application?

JSTL.  I forget the exact tag names, but any JSTL reference will have
them listed.  There's a tag for creating context-relative links, and (I
believe) one for creating context-relative image tags.

-QM

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: - Is there an online guide that helps app developers select a directory 
: structure that is portable across servlet containers?

The servlet spec.

Do a search at java.sun.com for it.  You'll want 2.3 if you're running
Tomcat 4, or 2.4 if you're running Tomcat 5.  Either way, it's available
as a PDF. 


As a Java web developer, the spec is your guide to webapp standards and
portability.  At the risk of sounding facetious, it answers all of your
questions except this one:


: - Finally, is it the best practice to hard-code the 'context' prefix in 
: your application?

JSTL.  I forget the exact tag names, but any JSTL reference will have
them listed.  There's a tag for creating context-relative links, and (I
believe) one for creating context-relative image tags.

-QM

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