unsubscribing to this mailing list

2003-01-06 Thread Mark Goking

why cant tomcat mailing list manually remove users? ive been trying to remove myself 
from the mailing list for four darn months yet it still cant?!?

im hoping that som admin here can manually remove me because there is no other way

mark

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RE: unsubscribing to this mailing list

2003-01-06 Thread Turner, John
 
Are you sure you are using the correct from address?  I was able to
unsubscribe and resubscribe myself twice in the past 6 weeks when going on
vacation.

FYI, the mail header I get says your address is @asia.bigfoot.com.  Is
that what you are using?

John

-Original Message-
From: Mark Goking
To: Tomcat Users List
Sent: 1/6/03 8:13 PM
Subject: unsubscribing to this mailing list


why cant tomcat mailing list manually remove users? ive been trying to
remove myself from the mailing list for four darn months yet it still
cant?!?

im hoping that som admin here can manually remove me because there is no
other way

mark

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RE: unsubscribing to this mailing list

2003-01-06 Thread Mark Goking

yes.
when i first joined this mailing list, i had no problem at all. i was even able to 
unsubscribe directly. but when i subscribed for the 2nd time, i had problems. it took 
me about 2 days to subscribe again. i didnt have any idea why it acted that way. 
within those 2 days i emailed the admin to manually add me and he said no because my 
email uses exchange server and the mailing list has problems dealing with email 
addresses that uses the ms exchange server. still, after 2 days i was able to 
subscribe myself here. the problem now is unsubscribing.

since i couldnt unsubscribe myself, i dont think it's impossible for the admin to 
manually remove me from the mailing list. unsubscribing is as simple as 1 2 3 but the 
process just doesnt work for me anymore.

mark

-Original Message-
From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:23 AM
To: 'Tomcat Users List '
Subject: RE: unsubscribing to this mailing list


 
Are you sure you are using the correct from address?  I was able to
unsubscribe and resubscribe myself twice in the past 6 weeks when going on
vacation.

FYI, the mail header I get says your address is @asia.bigfoot.com.  Is
that what you are using?

John

-Original Message-
From: Mark Goking
To: Tomcat Users List
Sent: 1/6/03 8:13 PM
Subject: unsubscribing to this mailing list


why cant tomcat mailing list manually remove users? ive been trying to
remove myself from the mailing list for four darn months yet it still
cant?!?

im hoping that som admin here can manually remove me because there is no
other way

mark

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Re: unsubscribing to this mailing list

2003-01-06 Thread Jon Eaves
Hi Mark, John

These lists are using ezmlm. You can unsubscribe from a
wrong address by sending a blank email to this address:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

That should end up with the right mail address being sent to ezmlm
and your confirmation email hopefully will end up in your inbox.

Then reply to that and it should work. If it doesn't then you
will need to get a moderator to send an email using the same To
field and that will not require confirmation.

Disclaimer:  I've never tried this, but that's what the manual says
to do.

Cheers,
	-- jon

Mark Goking wrote:

yes. when i first joined this mailing list, i had no problem at all. i
was even able to unsubscribe directly. but when i subscribed for the 2nd
time, i had problems. it took me about 2 days to subscribe again. i
didnt have any idea why it acted that way. within those 2 days i emailed
the admin to manually add me and he said no because my email uses
exchange server and the mailing list has problems dealing with email
addresses that uses the ms exchange server. still, after 2 days i was
able to subscribe myself here. the problem now is unsubscribing.

since i couldnt unsubscribe myself, i dont think it's impossible for the
admin to manually remove me from the mailing list. unsubscribing is as
simple as 1 2 3 but the process just doesnt work for me anymore.

mark

-Original Message- From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:23 AM To: 'Tomcat Users List ' 
Subject: RE: unsubscribing to this mailing list



Are you sure you are using the correct from address?  I was able to 
unsubscribe and resubscribe myself twice in the past 6 weeks when going
on vacation.

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RE: unsubscribing to this mailing list

2003-01-06 Thread Milt Epstein
On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, Turner, John wrote:

 Are you sure you are using the correct from address?  I was able
 to unsubscribe and resubscribe myself twice in the past 6 weeks when
 going on vacation.

 FYI, the mail header I get says your address is @asia.bigfoot.com.
 Is that what you are using?

Note that what address he is sending mail from (and/or what address he
ultimately receives mail at) doesn't necessarily matter.  What matters
is what address the mailing list is sending his messages to.  And
because of aliases, forwarding, change of addresses, etc., that could
be different.  What he needs to do is determine what that address is.
This can be done by looking for a mail header like the following:

Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How he does this depends on what mailer he's using.  MS mailers should
have an option that allows one to look at the headers.

The above is what it looks like for me.  It indicates that the mailing
list sent the message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (it changes '@'s to '='s).
And if I want to unsubscribe from the list, that's the address I have
to tell it to unsubscribe.  I can do this by sending a message to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Of course, I won't say that there aren't problems with the mailing
list software beyond the above.  But I know it is an issue, and I'd
like to have verification that someone has tried dealing with this
properly before moving on to other possibilities.


 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Goking
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Sent: 1/6/03 8:13 PM
 Subject: unsubscribing to this mailing list

 why cant tomcat mailing list manually remove users? ive been trying
 to remove myself from the mailing list for four darn months yet it
 still cant?!?

 im hoping that som admin here can manually remove me because there
 is no other way

 mark

Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Integration and Software Engineering (ISE)
Campus Information Technologies and Educational Services (CITES)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: unsubscribing to this mailing list

2003-01-06 Thread Milt Epstein
On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Jon Eaves wrote:

 Hi Mark, John

 These lists are using ezmlm. You can unsubscribe from a
 wrong address by sending a blank email to this address:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Note that this may not necessarily work, as I described in a message I
just sent to the list.  It doesn't matter what address he's ultimately
receiving mail at, it matters what address the list is sending him
mail at.  And for various reasons, those may not be the same.  The
list may receive the above, look for [EMAIL PROTECTED], not
find it as a subscribed address, and just give up (or give some error
message).  To find out what address to plug into the above address,
one needs to look for a header like:

Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Then, take the part between the number (in this case 47506) and the
'@' and plug that into the tomcat-user-unsubscribe address.


 That should end up with the right mail address being sent to ezmlm
 and your confirmation email hopefully will end up in your inbox.

 Then reply to that and it should work. If it doesn't then you
 will need to get a moderator to send an email using the same To
 field and that will not require confirmation.

 Disclaimer:  I've never tried this, but that's what the manual says
 to do.

 Cheers,
   -- jon

 Mark Goking wrote:
  yes. when i first joined this mailing list, i had no problem at all. i
  was even able to unsubscribe directly. but when i subscribed for the 2nd
  time, i had problems. it took me about 2 days to subscribe again. i
  didnt have any idea why it acted that way. within those 2 days i emailed
  the admin to manually add me and he said no because my email uses
  exchange server and the mailing list has problems dealing with email
  addresses that uses the ms exchange server. still, after 2 days i was
  able to subscribe myself here. the problem now is unsubscribing.
 
  since i couldnt unsubscribe myself, i dont think it's impossible for the
  admin to manually remove me from the mailing list. unsubscribing is as
  simple as 1 2 3 but the process just doesnt work for me anymore.
 
  mark
 
  -Original Message- From: Turner, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:23 AM To: 'Tomcat Users List '
  Subject: RE: unsubscribing to this mailing list
 
  Are you sure you are using the correct from address?  I was able to
  unsubscribe and resubscribe myself twice in the past 6 weeks when going
  on vacation.

Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Integration and Software Engineering (ISE)
Campus Information Technologies and Educational Services (CITES)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: unsubscribing to this mailing list

2003-01-06 Thread Turner, John
 
Understood.  I brought it up because I've never seen asia.bigfoot.com,
only bigfoot.com.  Thus, if the mailing list thinks he is
@asia.bigfoot.com but the address he uses is @bigfoot.com, there would
be an issue.

John

-Original Message-
From: Milt Epstein
To: Tomcat Users List
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 1/6/03 10:05 PM
Subject: RE: unsubscribing to this mailing list

On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, Turner, John wrote:

 Are you sure you are using the correct from address?  I was able
 to unsubscribe and resubscribe myself twice in the past 6 weeks when
 going on vacation.

 FYI, the mail header I get says your address is @asia.bigfoot.com.
 Is that what you are using?

Note that what address he is sending mail from (and/or what address he
ultimately receives mail at) doesn't necessarily matter.  What matters
is what address the mailing list is sending his messages to.  And
because of aliases, forwarding, change of addresses, etc., that could
be different.  What he needs to do is determine what that address is.
This can be done by looking for a mail header like the following:

Return-Path:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

How he does this depends on what mailer he's using.  MS mailers should
have an option that allows one to look at the headers.

The above is what it looks like for me.  It indicates that the mailing
list sent the message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (it changes '@'s to '='s).
And if I want to unsubscribe from the list, that's the address I have
to tell it to unsubscribe.  I can do this by sending a message to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Of course, I won't say that there aren't problems with the mailing
list software beyond the above.  But I know it is an issue, and I'd
like to have verification that someone has tried dealing with this
properly before moving on to other possibilities.


 -Original Message-
 From: Mark Goking
 To: Tomcat Users List
 Sent: 1/6/03 8:13 PM
 Subject: unsubscribing to this mailing list

 why cant tomcat mailing list manually remove users? ive been trying
 to remove myself from the mailing list for four darn months yet it
 still cant?!?

 im hoping that som admin here can manually remove me because there
 is no other way

 mark

Milt Epstein
Research Programmer
Integration and Software Engineering (ISE)
Campus Information Technologies and Educational Services (CITES)
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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